seriously dude stay home and study. you need it.Yes I am . Unfortunately you decided to **** with the wrong one.
It doesn't matter what you have now. How often have the Spurs had this amount of cap flexibility? Why do you think the Spurs have specifically worked to have so many contracts end after the same season? If the Spurs rest on their laurels then they are toast. This is not about next season it is about the next decade.
Study what, specifically? Name the subject. I need a good laugh.
reality 101
Ha. Quick, name one way to value a business. Any method.
free cash flow..
I'm sicking of talking to you. basically there are different assumptions that are being made -- that's it.
I'll let Pop and RC decide. maybe Milton and Peter and god will agree with you right?
Well at least you know how to use a search engine. Come back when you actually decide to delve into the numbers and not blindly speculate.
please youre a tool.
Run along now like you said you were going to.
Getting Kidd is questionable because the Spurs have Parker, Claxton, Manu, and SJax, all of which are arguably coming into their prime in the next "decade". Kidd's prime is now. From this point, he declines.
Anyway, I agree with the strategy of picking up a second star, though Kidd is not my first choice. If the Spurs enter into major luxtax territory, they can always trade.
I wil add kidd is going to start declining next yea. whether he is a spur or a net. here he would not have to get more then 30 minutes a night so he would not decline as fast.
longest thread?
Parker did a great job last night, huh? Reasons why Parker won't make me forget Kidd...
1) Why do the Spurs lose games when Tim scores a lot of points? Answer, the rest of the team gets lost because Tim is our point in every half-court set. The rest of the team depends on his ability to get them shots. Tim has so much responsibility on this team - make sure everyone else can get in the flow and still be the #1 scorer.
2) Tony Parker is more Iverson Jr. (and I stress the word Jr.) than point guard. As I've said for months, Parker is a scorer. He's not the one setting people up in the half-court.
3) When Parker doesn't score he gives the team nothing, unlike Kidd who dominates in games he scores 10 in with his passing, his ability to push tempo, his defense, and his rebounding.
4) The team needs a balls to the wall leader like Kidd. Sometimes this team starts hanging its head instead of fighting with everything they have. Kidd's as tough a point as there is in the league, and he's the leader the Spurs have lacked since AJ left.
TP 2 points, 4 assists against the incredible D of 1st-team All-Defense Derelik FishHead. Spurs get blown out in the playoffs.
Jason Kidd in '03, PLEASE!!!
and if he goes and gets 50 next game then what
Then it reinforces my point that he's Iverson Jr., a scorer, who wouldn't clash with Kidd nearly as much as most of you all think.
and if he goes for 20 assist?
fluke - Tony is a score first PG and the most assists he's ever gotten in a game is 13.
The first game of the playoffs Kidd showed why he is a superstar he came out blasting. TP as much as I like the guy came out like it was some kind of regular season game. Kidd is a superstar leader and will only magnify the value of our young guns.
I wish we had Kidd right now. But would Kidd leave NJ if his team makes it to the finals again?
If we are talking from about what the Spurs will do from a business standpoint- I don't think anyone here can know.
MB and BB can fill in the details for me and tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't claim to know a thing about the CBA.
For the most part, the Spurs operate with a finite income stream (assuming most of their $$$ is made from Ticket Sales and concessions).
Their core revenue is limited to 45a + Xb + C + M
with 45 being the number of Pre and Reg season games, "a" being the mean price for those tickets, "X" being the number of playoff games, "b" being the mean price for those playoff tickets, "C" being revenues from concessions, and "M" being money from Merchendise.
M is really the only area in which revenues are not restrained.
Again, I don't know anything about the CBA or the TV deals- but I am assuming that the TV money is divided equally amongst teams, regardless of how many times you have a national TV appearance?
From an expense side, the Spurs core expenditures are players and staff salaries along with both fixed and variable expenses for the SBC center (I assume the Spurs "pay" something, be it an actual cost or a % of their revenues)
Since none of us know how much money the Spurs make/lose now- it hinders our ability to analyze what they will do from a business standpoint.
If they sign a Max FA and use Bird Rights to keep our team compe ive, rather than staying at the Salary Cap level- we are looking at what- a $16 million annual difference in salaries maybe?
Let's assume that without the Max FA, the Spurs stay at the Cap and make the semifinals each year- but with the Max FA we go to $16 million over the cap (lux tax includeD) we go to the NBA finals each year.
Will the 2 additional rounds of playoff basketball make up for the $16million difference? If not, will additional Merch sales from having a second superstar make up that difference?
The question becomes- is Spurs ownership willing to take a lesser rate of return on their capital to field a championship team, if necessary?
I dunno.
from a business standpoint if they were thinking about selling the team after they sign a star fa would make sense
Kidd ensures a winner, which ensures a lot of season tickets and luxury boxes sold. Guaranteed money for every game - no need to spend a lot on advertising each game, no need to have HEB family nights where they have to sell the tickets at a huge discount, etc. People love a winner and with Kidd and Duncan plus our young core the Spurs would put one out every night. If they go out in the second you can bet that season ticket base is going down next year.
when has he won a ring?Kidd ensures a winner
I bet if they sign tj ford next year peopel would come see him pla to.
PFC2002-You need to look at the BIG PICTURE. You are too fixated to see the value of whate other PLAYERS can offer.did I ever say that it was a exact ratio? Youre right that CBA helps small market teams -- that's why I mentioned the nba not being mlb. It doesn't make a level playing field. We are the SMALLEST market.
I get that from you.
SA is not the smallest market. Markets for Tv & Media re defines as DESIGNATED MEDIA AREAS or DMA's.
Here is your ranking.
RANK        NBA City        2002 Population        2002 Households
1        New York, NY        20368615        7413674
2        Los Angeles, CA        16600260        5389735
3        Chicago, IL        9373560        3383129
4        Philadelphia, PA        7573179        2853624
5        San Francisco et al, CA        6876638        2506205
6        Boston et al, MA-NH        6154633        2373017
7        Washington et al,DC-MD        5769771        2179351
8        Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX        5960809        2178128
9        Atlanta, GA        5385393        1975741
10        Detroit, MI        4990251        1912579
11        Houston, TX        5201439        1823683
12        Seattle-Tacoma, WA        4337694        1701707
13        Minneapolis-St. Paul,MN        4194106        1609726
14        Cleveland, OH        3915851        1545898
15        Phoenix, AZ        4146665        1527503
16        Miami-Ft. Lauderdale,FL        4057710        1497349
17        Denver, CO        3566371        1383360
18        Sacramento et al, CA        3528233        1243398
19        Orlando et al, FL        3076187        1218320
20        Portland, OR        2822812        1084526
21        Indianapolis, IN        2615230        1027445
22        Charlotte, NC        2490167        962342
23        Milwaukee, WI        2221571        863686
24        Salt Lake City, UT        2457393        779747
25        San Antonio, TX        2070078        725088
26        Memphis, TN        1778762        666549
27        New Orleans, LA        1769514        665972
Not the smallest in terms of either Total Households or Total Population.
You BETTER ASK SOMEBODY...MENSA
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Oh Yeah...Why is it that we have a Point Power Forward? Maybe its because our Shoot First Point Guard is STILL NOT YET A SUPERSTAR? The Kid is amazing but like Luke Skywalker, he has much to learn.
Don't come with one-line simpleminded arguments. I've laid out at length why Kidd makes so much sense for this team. Kidd is a proven winner despite having no one anywhere near the capabilities of Duncan to play with.
gp is a proven winner
sign him for 2 years instead of kidd
kidd is going to be a steve smith in year 5-7 of his contract here in sa. he sure better GET the SPURS RINGS before then.
That is why I think getting kidd is not as smart as Oneal. yeah kidd would not have to play as much here but would pop play him 40 plus minutes during the season?
Oneal is younger and fits the teams need. Oneal did make the pacers that much better. he did not get them out of th efirst round this year but you can not blame it on him.
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