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Having an asshole different from yours would qualify hate by your definition. No thanks.
I don't know you personally. Perhaps you do charity to alleviate the guilt you have for violating your cat? who knows.
But either way, i'm thankful for your charity towards others for whatever reason,
Having an asshole different from yours would qualify hate by your definition. No thanks.
^^^ See, you can't just give a compliment, you have to insult. I do it because I love it. It's not even like a civic duty to me, it's my life.
This doesn't prove that your not angry in alot of your posts.
gtown is just dumb. He's got spunk though.
I've been around long enough to know that you believe what you post, it may not make sense to many of us, but it makes sense to you (in some warped Grover Norquist sort of way). However, you have to consider that when you express your extreme views, half the board is going to automatically disagree with you, and a 1/3 of the conservatives on the board are going to disown you. Hey, it happens to the best of us, but the important thing is not too lose your cool. The old adage 'I've been called worse by better' comes to mind.
Oh spare me.
I can, but with your anger, how do I know your joking?
Thanks big momma.
No seriously, yeah i did lose my cool. So what. It's past midnight. Ok, now i'm inventing excuses.
But your right i have been called worse by better.
I should of never taken SA210 seriously on his bile.
You need to distinguish. I was angry with my insults, but not my viewpoints. To say that someone is filled with hate, you better prove it with his own words.I can, but with your anger, how do I know your joking?
And to prove your viewpoints on the poor, use facts or actually know what you are talking about.
gtwon is right. Everyone who was in New Orleans by the time Katrina hit didn't graduate high school, had kids early and/or were criminals. It's that simple. Bad things happen to bad people.
Don't worry, I checked on snopes.com to make sure.
Those things may not solve everyone's problems, but it certainly isn't going to hold anyone back...and it will give people the best shot of having a successful life, regardless of race.
As far as lessons learned, I'd go with the "don't live below sea level" one as my personal choice.
I've only been to snopes once or twice, but I didn't realize they verified personal opinions and commentary.
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there are a lot of people who don't know how to make money. Sometime simplifying how to make money helps people.
Unless you think what the guy suggested is too big a challenge for a lot of people. Not to say I think his formula is right.
I'm old enough to know Bush lies to America, and ppl know this, but yet still spin and back him up like he's the greatest president ever. Nothing can change that fact.
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I'm old enough to know Bush lies to America, and ppl know this, but yet still spin and back im up like he's the greatest president ever.
and that's your response. Spin.
LJ referred the article to me and it looks pretty racist to me. Sounds like a white guy trying to tell people in the streets how to be better off. I don't think Jim Farynsworth knows just how hard it is. Realistically, so you graduate a ghetto high school with a 78 GPA and then you get some $6/hr job to go along with your $380 roach trap apartment when your 18. Now what? You work so you can be in poverty. Then when you're 24 you get married and have a kid and hope you're savings of $319.81 has made enough interest to buy a ghetto rent house? I haven't lived below lower-middle class since I was 5 and I know only what I've read or heard, but I think the struggle is harder than a couple of simple rules to follow. The article is sheer, brilliant ignorance.
Last edited by kris; 12-03-2005 at 04:12 AM.
Well said. There is something to be said about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps but there is also an element people don't realize unless they've lived it. That element is the vast level of demoralization that comes with living under the poverty line and the skew it places on the perceptions of what one can accomplish.
Honestly? I'm sick of people who have it easier pointing to the 1 out of 25 that makes it while ignoring the other 24 who don't. The perspective just isn't there.
I still don't see it as racist at all, perhaps overly simplistic, though. I still think he ripped the idea off from O'Reilly ... whose point was "don't be poor -- so you don't have to depend so much on a government that will most likely fail you." Whether that was his intent or not, I don't know...but his points were too similar to what O'Reilly was saying.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 12-03-2005 at 07:25 AM.
I strongly agree with the 4 ways to avoid poverty but this particular point requires the help of someone that may not want to or may not be able to offer that help.1) Attend High School, Pay Attention, and Graduate. You notice, they didn’t say you have to do well in high school, just don't drop out. They didn’t say you have to attend Harvard, or even attend college at all. They didn’t say you have to make the honor roll, be on the football team, or in the band. Just be furniture. Show up and graduate.
I've worked for a low income housing agnecy for 23 years and far too many of the parents of the children living there were raised in poverty, do not have a diploma and probably do not understand the value of an education.
This handicaps their children because they can't pass on what they don't have.
The learning environment in the schools that many of them attend is chaotic (my wife is a teacher in one of these schools, charter) with constant disiplinary interuptions during the day interferring with constructive teaching and learning..
I live right outside of Toledo, OH and they have implemented, for the last three years, a program where they have two grade schools set aside, one for teh boys and one for the girls, the racial makeup is predominantly black. The girls proficiency was somewhat higher than the boys when they started and after three years their proficiency has skyrocketed while the boys went even lower. What does that tell us?
1. Girls are more serious minded and better understand the value of an education. (when asked if they would like the schools to combine both sexes most of the girls said no)
2. Boys don't understand the value of an education (parent(s) play a role here) and are more interested in emulating their role models; Basketball players, rappers, etc. and some of their immediate peers who are trying to make the big, quick buck in the drug trade.
Here's the article about the single gender schools, it's an interesting read.
Boys lagging in same-gender schools
Girls show big gains but male test scores backslide at TPS academies
By IGNAZIO MESSINA
BLADE STAFF WRITER
Girls are better than boys.
At least that's the result so far at Toledo Public's two single-gender public elementary schools, which now are in their third year.
Stewart Academy for Girls and Lincoln Academy for Boys are performing better than before transforming into single gender schools, but the all-female building has shown significant improvement while scores at the boys' building are actually worse in some areas.
"Our scores are phenomenal, and we have had high gains in proficiency tests," said Suzanne Muggy, assistant principal at Stewart.
Unfortunately, school leaders cannot say the same for Stewart's all-male counterpart.
Lincoln Academy for Boys "has not increased at a rate I would like," Toledo Public Schools Superintendent Eugene Sanders acknowledged.
In fact, the sixth-grade test scores last year at Lincoln Academy for Boys were worse in each subject when compared to the previous year's scores.
During the 2004-2005 school year, just 12.9 percent of the boys were rated "proficient" or better in reading; 53.6 percent were proficient or better in writing, and only 6.5 percent were proficient or better in math.
The previous year, 16.2 percent of the boys were proficient or better in reading; 57.9 percent were proficient or better in writing, and 18.4 percent were proficient or better in math.
Stewart, which is temporarily at the former Warren Elementary on Woodruff Avenue while its building on Avondale Avenue is razed and rebuilt, has made the greatest gains in sixth-grade state tests.
During the 2004-2005 school year, 89.4 percent of the girls achieved a "proficient" rating or better in reading; 80.4 percent were proficient or better in writing, and 59.6 percent were proficient or better in math.
Those scores were a marked improvement over even the previous year, when only 17.2 percent were proficient or better in reading; 75.9 percent were proficient or better in writing, and 34.5 percent were proficient or better in math.
So why are the girls advancing so much quicker than the boys?
Three different principals in three years and a staff of mostly new teachers after restructuring the district because of layoffs have rocked Lincoln's stability, Mr. Sanders said.
"We think once we stabilize the administration and once we are able to more selectively identify teachers for the academies, that will be a strong element [toward success]," he said.
Stewart teachers say one of the reasons the girls are performing better is because they now have a feeling of pride for their school that was not there before.
When asked if she missed being in school with boys, 10-year-old NaKayla James quickly shook her head sideways and said no.
"It's better now because we can learn," she said. "The boys were always being bad and off-track."
Rhea Dawson, an 8-year-old at Stewart, said boys are mostly a distraction for her.
"At my old school, Reynolds Elementary, the boys got the girls in trouble," Rhea said.
Third-grade teacher Kelly Szurko has been at Stewart for seven years and said her job is now incredibly easier.
"The biggest thing I've noticed is that it's calmer and quiet," Ms. Szurko said. "I have no discipline problems, our test scores in sixth grade have skyrocketed, and all the teachers are working really well."
Jamie Johnson, the new principal at Lincoln Academy for Boys, said the school's teachers still have a real challenge.
"It's not a big, giant gymnasium like people think," she said of the perception some may have of an all-male student body. "It has been three years, and in that time the staff has done a lot of research on how boys learn differently, so we don't have to experiment anymore."
She's noticed the boys at Lincoln are better behaved than at co-ed schools, where she said males try to show off for the females. Also, boys in a single-gender environment are more likely to pursue interests in art, music, drama, and foreign languages than those in co-ed schools, she said.
However, the test scores for Stewart's boys are not acceptable, Ms. Johnson said.
Toledo Public's single-gender schools are voluntary for students and structured as magnet schools. The district received national attention in 2003 when Mr. Sanders announced it would join a very short list of communities with single-gender public elementary schools. It still has the only all-girls public elementary school building in Ohio.
A provision of the federal No Child Left Behind Act allows school districts to establish single-gender schools and classrooms, a trend that is spreading nationally.
Last month, the Miami-Dade School Board approved the first all-female public school in South Florida for students in grades 6 through 12.
Closer to Toledo, Columbus is considering two single-gender middle schools to help compete with charter schools, which are publicly funded, privately run schools free from many state regulations.
Toledo Public opened its single-gender schools, in part, to compete with charter schools, which have lured thousand of students away from their school system.
Some research suggests that students perform better - both academically and behaviorally - in a single-gender classroom, but skeptics say that research usually is based on private schools.
Overall, Lincoln is ranked in "academic emergency" by the state - the lowest category and the equivalent of an F. It also missed a tough federal standard requiring it show "adequate yearly progress" among different subgroups of students.
Stewart is ranked as a "continuous improvement" school, which is the equivalent of a C on the state's five-tier ranking system, and met the adequate yearly progress goal.
"We are very pleased where Stewart is," Superintendent Sanders said.
"There is an automatic embracing of the single-gender education there and we want to mirror that at Lincoln."
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...plate=printart
A large percentage of those in poverty are African Americans and their parents, role models (and they know who they are), and the so-called leaders of those that are poverty stricken (Jesse and Sharpton to name a couple) should be trumpeting this message without ceasing but they don't.
Why is that?
[QUOTE]Those guys tell the poor to drop out of school?
I'd like to see a quote or two.
Kris, good post, some just don't understand. Stay alert for anyone telling you, you shouldn't have kids cuz your poor.
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