Page 5 of 16 FirstFirst 12345678915 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 125 of 381
  1. #101
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Post Count
    90,829
    It would be much more challenging if it were enshrined in law (or god forbid the cons ution) the right to own a semi auto. It’ll take time, but eventually you 2A gun cultists will die off.

    We leftists are playing the long game
    Eventually

    So you don't trust your party to make effective changes and instead rely on evolution.

  2. #102
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Post Count
    90,829
    The guns are mostly being sold to the same cultists. Whether you own one or ten makes no difference.

    SR21 would by a 38 special and that’s all he needs tbh.
    Needs

    You're hanging yourself now. Now someone needs a gun.

  3. #103
    Veteran Th'Pusher's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Post Count
    6,130
    Eventually

    So you don't trust your party to make effective changes and instead rely on evolution.
    It’s a well funded machine and god knows we worship the almighty dollar.

    I largely agree with your analysis on placebo legislation but completely disagree with your all or nothing approach. Semi autos are the goal, but you’ve got to start solving the problem somewhere. Start with the AR15, then the semi auto rifle, move onto the semi auto handgun.

    Slowly strip you of your “rights”. Btw - who grants those rights and who enforces those rights?

  4. #104
    Veteran Th'Pusher's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Post Count
    6,130
    Needs

    You're hanging yourself now. Now someone needs a gun.
    Not a need but a personal decision and that is enshrined in law. If SR21 thinks he needs one…

  5. #105
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    20,699
    SR21 would buy a 38 special and that’s all he needs tbh.
    Will that blow the lungs right out of the body or will it stick in the lung?

  6. #106
    Veteran Th'Pusher's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Post Count
    6,130
    Will that blow the lungs right out of the body or will it stick in the lung?
    It’ll stick you in nube. Sit in the corner while the adults are talking about the technicalities of guns.

  7. #107
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    20,699
    It’ll stick you in nube. Sit in the corner while the adults are talking about the technicalities of guns.
    Oh that's a good gun then. Not a battlefield weapon like them 9mm ones. They blow the lung right out of the body.

  8. #108
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    20,699
    SR21 if you get a 38 special remember the trick to shooting them is to hold on loosely but don't let go

  9. #109
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    I was around the first time they were talking about banning "assault rifles". A friend and I with the help of the US government built and sold about 30 AR15s. After Vietnam the US government destroyed hundreds of thousands of them by cutting the lower receiver (the registered part of the gun with the serial number) and sold everything else as scrap. (upper receiver, including bolt, barrel, stock etc. ) we could buy an aftermarket lower receiver for $80 and a complete puts kit of US surplus parts for $120. Then spend 20 minutes assembling them and immediately sell them for $700. Funny thing was those surplus kits still had the "full auto" bolt and all you had to do to convert them to full auto was add an auto sear that you could buy for $20 if you wanted to. Anyway, we made several thousand dollars of easy money because of the scare.

  10. #110
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    The assault rifles ban was pretty much a joke. It described details like pistol grip, barrel shroud, threaded barrel, etc. The importers just switched from AKs to SKSs with magazine conversions that effectively did the exact same thing without meeting the assault rifles description.

  11. #111
    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Post Count
    41,641
    Repugs said they will block any attempt at gun control.
    And rightfully so... Btw your tagline is dumb as just like you Bouts.

  12. #112
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    The assault rifles ban was pretty much a joke. It described details like pistol grip, barrel shroud, threaded barrel, etc. The importers just switched from AKs to SKSs with magazine conversions that effectively did the exact same thing without meeting the assault rifles description.
    So why did he number of mass gun killings go down during the ban then up after?

  13. #113
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    So why did he number of mass gun killings go down during the ban then up after?
    did they? Your claim.

  14. #114
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    did they? Your claim.
    A 2019 study out of New York University’s School of Medicine found that mass shooting deaths involving assault weapons fell slightly in the decade of the federal assault weapon ban, and then rose dramatically in the decade that followed....

    In a 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Justice Department, researcher Christopher Koper wrote, "The ban’s exemption of millions of pre-ban assault weapons and large capacity magazines ensured that the effects of the law would occur only gradually."

    ....The point was the 1994 law was hardly an on-off switch for these firearms and magazines. As long as that hardware remained in circulation, people who wanted to use these weapons in a mass shooting would have some opportunity to acquire them....

    ....In raw numbers, they found that mass shooting deaths fell during the years of the ban, and rose afterwards. DiMaggio shared his data. Deaths more than tripled in the decade after the ban ended.

    The decline of 15 deaths between the decade before the ban and the decade during it is modest, but there is a clear and dramatic rise after the ban expired.

    The death toll from mass shootings went from an average of 4.8 per year during the ban years to an average of 23.8 per year in the decade afterwards....


    https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ed/9941501002/

    Feel free to post your numbers, but perhaps it was just a little more difficult for non-gun nut potential murderers to get those kinds of guns during the ban. It sure was easier afterwards when the numbers mysteriously tripled.

    But it was probably that rap music and Grand Theft Auto.

  15. #115
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    The decline of 15 deaths between the decade before the ban and the decade during it is modest, but there is a clear and dramatic rise after the ban expired.
    So they took two ten year periods before ban/after ban and the difference was 15 deaths? Is that really statistically significant? Even if it was, the casual cause/effect is simply inferred with no way to prove if it was or wasn't the difference.

  16. #116
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    So they took two ten year periods before ban/after ban and the difference was 15 deaths? Is that really statistically significant? Even if it was, the casual cause/effect is simply inferred with no way to prove if it was or wasn't the difference.
    did you read anything I posted? I'll repeat for you:

    In a 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Justice Department, researcher Christopher Koper wrote, "The ban’s exemption of millions of pre-ban assault weapons and large capacity magazines ensured that the effects of the law would occur only gradually."

    ....The point was the 1994 law was hardly an on-off switch for these firearms and magazines. As long as that hardware remained in circulation, people who wanted to use these weapons in a mass shooting would have some opportunity to acquire them....


    perhaps it was just a little more difficult for non-gun nut potential murderers to get those kinds of guns during the ban.
    Why did the shootings triple after the ban was ended?

    Let's have your opinion.

  17. #117
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    I mean your argument here is "Maybe something was starting to work in the past, so let's definitely never try anything like it again!"

  18. #118
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    did you read anything I posted? I'll repeat for you:

    In a 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Justice Department, researcher Christopher Koper wrote, "The ban’s exemption of millions of pre-ban assault weapons and large capacity magazines ensured that the effects of the law would occur only gradually."

    ....The point was the 1994 law was hardly an on-off switch for these firearms and magazines. As long as that hardware remained in circulation, people who wanted to use these weapons in a mass shooting would have some opportunity to acquire them....




    Why did the shootings triple after the ban was ended?

    Let's have your opinion.
    You always on my opinion but I think these mentally disturbed males do it as a (and I agree it's irrational) means of being "famous" since they have somehow come to the decision that their lives are hopeless and taking down a school, etc. will allow them to suicide by cop while being front page news. I have always advocated not publishing the shooters name and just call them a "mentally disturbed individual".

  19. #119
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    You always on my opinion but I think these mentally disturbed males do it as a (and I agree it's irrational) means of being "famous" since they have somehow come to the decision that their lives are hopeless and taking down a school, etc. will allow them to suicide by cop while being front page news. I have always advocated not publishing the shooters name and just call them a "mentally disturbed individual".
    That doesn't really explain the tripling of shootings after the end of the ban.

    Cable news and USA Today had already been around for over two decades by the end of the ban -- well established during the time of the modest decrease.

    Why did the shootings increase that much after the ban ended?

  20. #120
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    That doesn't really explain the tripling of shootings after the end of the ban.

    Cable news and USA Today had already been around for over two decades -- well established during the time of the modest decrease.

    Why did the shootings increase that much after the ban ended?
    I think it's cascading copy cat events. There are a lot of sick heads out there.

  21. #121
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,407
    I think it's cascading copy cat events. There are a lot of sick heads out there.
    What happened to keep the events from cascading during the ban?

  22. #122
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    That doesn't really explain the tripling of shootings after the end of the ban.

    Cable news and USA Today had already been around for over two decades by the end of the ban -- well established during the time of the modest decrease.

    Why did the shootings increase that much after the ban ended?
    You are asking my opinion? The assault weapon ban was from 1994 to 2004. there were no smart phones or social media in that time frame. If you want a cause and effect I think there is a case to be made that the mass shootings have increased at the same rate as the availability of social media.

  23. #123
    point it at ed-209 Dick Jones's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Post Count
    366
    Hai guyz what the ar in ar15 mean? A salt rifle rite?

  24. #124
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    44,136
    Hai guyz what the ar in ar15 mean? A salt rifle rite?
    AR was short for Armalite. The origonal design was by Armalite.

  25. #125
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Post Count
    91,195
    So far---so good.

    Though I feel a trap, it's too good to be true. The RINO's could be playing possum, like rats, massing for a sneak attack.

    I got my fingers, my toes & my eyes crossed for good luck.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •