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    I believe in Primo. I think he’ll be good. But he also was selected way too early in the draft. Just like Samanic, the Spurs drafted him much higher than he was worth. Just another of the many examples of terrible decision making by the front office in the post-Kawhi era.
    In a small market like the Spurs, the best chance of getting a franchise player is by draft. After the 1st 3 picks, it’s more of a big swing and hoping you hit the ball. Spurs was not looking to draft another role player. They took a big swing and people should understand that. It’s a big risk with big rewards. Kawhi. Spurs needed to develop another soon-to-be franchise to replace Timmy. They traded Pop’s “favorite” to take a shot at drafting a hopefully great defensive player, and happened to be a solid all-around also. That was a big swing that connected. Primo was too early, but Spurs were not swinging for a 12th pick role player. That was a big swing for hopefully a great one. It’s a hit and miss game that unfortunately the Spurs needed to play, unless you’re the Lakers or Golden State where you can expect big talent going to start knocking, then they don’t need to take that risk and just draft the best available. Different situations. During the championship years, Spurs didn’t have to gamble, obviously because they had the key figures in placed. Not this tine. Spurs are swinging if not a high pick. Hopefully we get a top pick next draft, then the gamble is less

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    Sengun is doing fine. And still capable of being better with his shooting and really needs to cut down the turnovers, if he doesn't he'll have issues. 23 PER, 15 and 10. Diaw spent most of his Spurs time off the bench playing a role, and Sengun has a good chance to do the same thing. Boris wasn't an everyday starter until he was 23. Playing a role off the bench is Sengun being put into a position to succeed and that's fine.
    Almost exactly Poeltls numbers, except Jak can defend.

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    Are we really going to keep discussing this dudes trajectory over and over? Give him a few years to see what we have…… not a big deal��. The #12 pick is like playing with house money ( do your research ).

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    In a small market like the Spurs, the best chance of getting a franchise player is by draft. After the 1st 3 picks, it’s more of a big swing and hoping you hit the ball. Spurs was not looking to draft another role player. They took a big swing and people should understand that. It’s a big risk with big rewards. Kawhi. Spurs needed to develop another soon-to-be franchise to replace Timmy. They traded Pop’s “favorite” to take a shot at drafting a hopefully great defensive player, and happened to be a solid all-around also. That was a big swing that connected. Primo was too early, but Spurs were not swinging for a 12th pick role player. That was a big swing for hopefully a great one. It’s a hit and miss game that unfortunately the Spurs needed to play, unless you’re the Lakers or Golden State where you can expect big talent going to start knocking, then they don’t need to take that risk and just draft the best available. Different situations. During the championship years, Spurs didn’t have to gamble, obviously because they had the key figures in placed. Not this tine. Spurs are swinging if not a high pick. Hopefully we get a top pick next draft, then the gamble is less
    Gambling is fine. If you want to gamble, do it intelligently. Trade down and pick up an asset. Don’t spend a lottery pick on a guy who’sa late first round pick, at best.

    Smart teams ac ulate assets that they can turn into good players. That’s especially important for small market teams. Making wild guesses on the future ability of an 18 year old who spent one year in college coming off the bench with no out-of-this world talent or skill is not smart, it’s irresponsible. The Samanich pick was just as bad, if not worse. Not only did they use a pick that was way too high, he’s not even an asset anymore. Just incredibly wasteful.

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    Primo and franchise player on the same sentence... ? really ?

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    Who says Rocket fans should influence where he'd play with the Spurs? Spurs offense is not the Rockets offense.

    Pop doesn't have the athletic roster Houston does. He would undoubtedly play center in small ball lineups but playing a PF role aside from that like a Bobo did is precisely where he'd fit on our roster.
    He rarely showed it, but Bobo was a supreme athlete. The story about the cappuccino and flip flops comes to mind. He’s shorter, but cleared more of the vert test slats than Amare. Sengün isn’t even close to that level.

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    He rarely showed it, but Bobo was a supreme athlete. The story about the cappuccino and flip flops comes to mind. He’s shorter, but cleared more of the vert test slats than Amare. Sengün isn’t even close to that level.
    I like Sengun. But I doubt he’s going to be anything more than a role player. And yeah that Bobo cappuccino was like a barber shop story. I believe it though

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    I like Sengun. But I doubt he’s going to be anything more than a role player. And yeah that Bobo cappuccino was like a barber shop story. I believe it though
    Go back and watch the Kawhi play at the end of OKC game 6 in 2014. Bobo followed the play, and slapped the back board on both sides of the rim, and he had to duck under to do it. That was old, sorta fat Bobo, too.

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    Ok, but why? I have been generally supportive of all of the Spurs recent draft picks because I could understand the potential value of the player. Lonnie Walker had long arms and otherworldly athleticism (did not want him to leave), Luka Samanic had unicorn skills as a passer, ball handler, shooter, and post player (I still think he’ll be a good NBA player eventually), Keldon Johnson looked good right away as a do-it-all 3, and Vassell was supposed to be a next level defensive player. I don’t love the Sochan pick, but at least I get what his ceiling could be.


    But what the does Primo do well? Outside of his draft status, what is there to be excited about? There isn’t even much from his one year in college that points toward who he could be in the future. And this is the guy Brian Wright thinks is a franchise player in the making?

    There question becomes, what in the actual are they looking for?
    That pull up is elite. They can make 20 point scorers out of raw offense guys with elite pull up ability. Primo's goes all the way past the 3 point line. Plus the intangibles to get there.

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    Despite how unimpressed I am by Primo as a supposed franchise player or even as a playoff rotation contributor, I think he should be starting over Jones.

    If Primo is a legit shooter, and that's an if, then it should help the starters. And probably help him as he seems so reluctant to look for his own 3 with the pressure of running things for a second unit. Maybe with the starters full time some of that pressure will be off and he can be more selfish. Jones is a hustle guy who will do his thing whether he's starting or not.

    The more reps they get Primo then the faster they can determine if and how he should be a part of the future.

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    Despite how unimpressed I am by Primo as a supposed franchise player or even as a playoff rotation contributor, I think he should be starting over Jones.

    If Primo is a legit shooter, and that's an if, then it should help the starters. And probably help him as he seems so reluctant to look for his own 3 with the pressure of running things for a second unit. Maybe with the starters full time some of that pressure will be off and he can be more selfish. Jones is a hustle guy who will do his thing whether he's starting or not.

    The more reps they get Primo then the faster they can determine if and how he should be a part of the future.
    They already know……you don’t.

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    I realize he's still a teenager and obviously small sample size but once again, his individual advanced stats indicate a replacement player at best.

    He's now cleared 1000 career minutes and has a 48.5% TS% (league average is 55%) with a turnover % 5.5 higher than his assist % (2 to 1 assist/turnover is considered good).

    On the plus side, the assist (granted, more on ball reps) and free throw rate have ed.

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    THAT IS NUTS. THEY NEVER DO SOMETHING THAT EARLY. What the did he do? Curse out Pop?

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