2022-2023 Spurs Trade Rumors Thread

[CGD]

Uh, no, Lakers have won 5 in a row. With New Orleans able to swap picks, they have ZERO incentive to tank.

LeBron never went to LA for basketball reasons. They were a hole team, and he would only be able to breathe just so much life into them at his age. He was transitioning to his second career: entertainment.

The lakers are in 13th place in the conference at 5-10. They have the 6th worst record in the league right now.
I agree that they dont WANT to tank, theyre just bad.

[KingKev]

^ yeah If LBJ wanted to win he could have easily taken money off the table these last few years so they could have built a better team.

[buttsR4rebounding]

^ yeah If LBJ wanted to win he could have easily taken money off the table these last few years so they could have built a better team.

LBJ just figured he was good enough to carry a team to the LOB. Except for the contract with Miami he has NEVER given up a dime. Even in Miami he only gave up a few million dollars. Wade and Bosh both gave up more than LeBron.

[Mal]

"Before the season started, the Lakers offered a lottery-protected first-round pick and Russell Westbrook to the Spurs for Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott, HoopsHype has learned. The Spurs, however, wanted an unprotected first-round pick for taking on Westbrook's salary with the expectation he'd be waived, which the Lakers were unwilling to do, and talks stalled."

NBA Rumors: Top Trade Candidates For Each Team (hoopshype.com)

So they assested Westbrook had actual value ?

[The Truth #6]

Westbrook 2.0 would get minutes on our team given how bad we are now.

I hope we get something for Josh and Doug eventually.

[exstatic]

Westbrook 2.0 would get minutes on our team given how bad we are now.

I hope we get something for Josh and Doug eventually.

It’s not a matter of talent, it’s that you don’t want his bull on the court or in the locker room.

[rascal]

Its amazing reading other teams boards because they value Jak for a lotto protected first and not much else. Either way I think Jak stays and Richardson will be the only big deal by the deadline.

That's his value.

[Kevin]

That's his value.

Yeah probably. Spurs are re-signing Jak unless they land Wemby.

[buttsR4rebounding]

If not for Bassey a Richardson for Wiseman deal makes sense for everyone and the salaries already match. But as other have already said the Wiseman ship sailed.

Bassey has shown some flashes, but definitely isn't a reason not to do a deal for Wiseman. If Richardson for Wiseman makes sense for everyone without Bassey in the picture then it still makes sense. Personally, while I think Wiseman is a roll of the dice at this point I wouldn't write him off completely as most have. He came in during COVID and then has been injured for 1 1/2 years. While he is obviously still a project it would be a low risk one at this point, but the 3 games that Bassey played above expectations in shouldn't have any impact on that decision.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Yeah probably. Spurs are re-signing Jak unless they land Wemby.

I think they re-sign him even if they land Wemby. To me it makes sense having Jak take the punishment down low and let the skinny 7'4" guy play PF. Let Sochan be the energy guy off the bench.

[Kevin]

Bassey has shown some flashes, but definitely isn't a reason not to do a deal for Wiseman. If Richardson for Wiseman makes sense for everyone without Bassey in the picture then it still makes sense. Personally, while I think Wiseman is a roll of the dice at this point I wouldn't write him off completely as most have. He came in during COVID and then has been injured for 1 1/2 years. While he is obviously still a project it would be a low risk one at this point, but the 3 games that Bassey played above expectations in shouldn't have any impact on that decision.

Disagree. That would leave the Spurs with five centers. Jak, Collins, Bassey Wiseman and Dieng. Even if you cut Dieng that still leaves them with four. Just not enough minutes for development and honestly Bassey as already shown more in 10 or so games with the Spurs than Wiseman has in three years.

[Kevin]

I think they re-sign him even if they land Wemby. To me it makes sense having Jak take the punishment down low and let the skinny 7'4" guy play PF. Let Sochan be the energy guy off the bench.

The Spurs have nothing better to do with their money than extend Keldon Dev and Jak. They're not landing big free agents and renting cap space for assets has proven to be easier said than done and now Utah is in that market too.

[LeBowen]

A question or you guys who want to trade Jakob, what's the plan for C position then?
Traditional bigs aren't a thing on top contenders anymore, unless they're MVP level players, which we won't get unless somehow that 10 to 15% chance for Victor happens.
And as already said, if we actually get Victor, he's not going to play C as a rookie. That's just asking for him to get injured.


I don't see a single other big in the league who would be a realistic target and would be better value for money than Jakob.
Sure, it doesn't matter this season, but replacing such good rim protector would be really difficult and we won't be tanking forever.
He's just turned 27, it's not like he's 10 years older than our future core players.


If an overpay offer comes, let him go. If not, extend him. Even if he gets 15 to 18 million per year, he'll still be tradeable and a good value contract.
And we'll have like 70 million in cap space next summer. Sorry to disappoint you, but no max contract players are going to knock on PATFO's door.


Trading him for just one pick and a decent player would be dumb. He's a player you hope to get with 5th to 10th pick.

[TXstbobcat]

A question or you guys who want to trade Jakob, what's the plan for C position then?
Traditional bigs aren't a thing on top contenders anymore, unless they're MVP level players, which we won't get unless somehow that 10 to 15% chance for Victor happens.
And as already said, if we actually get Victor, he's not going to play C as a rookie. That's just asking for him to get injured.


I don't see a single other big in the league who would be a realistic target and would be better value for money than Jakob.
Sure, it doesn't matter this season, but replacing such good rim protector would be really difficult and we won't be tanking forever.
He's just turned 27, it's not like he's 10 years older than our future core players.


If an overpay offer comes, let him go. If not, extend him. Even if he gets 15 to 18 million per year, he'll still be tradeable and a good value contract.
And we'll have like 70 million in cap space next summer. Sorry to disappoint you, but no max contract players are going to knock on PATFO's door.


Trading him for just one pick and a decent player would be dumb. He's a player you hope to get with 5th to 10th pick.

I could see him getting a 4 year $100 Million offer from another team once he hits unrestricted free agency at the end of this season.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Disagree. That would leave the Spurs with five centers. Jak, Collins, Bassey Wiseman and Dieng. Even if you cut Dieng that still leaves them with four. Just not enough minutes for development and honestly Bassey as already shown more in 10 or so games with the Spurs than Wiseman has in three years.

Man, take off the homer glasses. Wiseman isn’t playing for a team that won a ring last year. They have a much higher standard than the Spurs do right now. If Wiseman was a Spur he’d be getting regular minutes. I like Bassey. I hope he becomes the next 50, but he’s not done anything to warrant not making a trade that your post said made sense for everyone.

[Kevin]

Man, take off the homer glasses. Wiseman isn’t playing for a team that won a ring last year. They have a much higher standard than the Spurs do right now. If Wiseman was a Spur he’d be getting regular minutes. I like Bassey. I hope he becomes the next 50, but he’s not done anything to warrant not making a trade that your post said made sense for everyone.

These aren't homer glasses. Wiseman has either been injured or terrible his entire NBA career up to this point.

[Mr. Body]

Man, take off the homer glasses. Wiseman isn’t playing for a team that won a ring last year. They have a much higher standard than the Spurs do right now. If Wiseman was a Spur he’d be getting regular minutes. I like Bassey. I hope he becomes the next 50, but he’s not done anything to warrant not making a trade that your post said made sense for everyone.

Wiseman wouldn't be getting regular minutes with any team in the league. Not sure if you've been watching at all.

Beside the fact that he doesn't know how to play basketball and after four years has no clear ap ude for learning how, he's on an ungodly salary tier given his draft number. In the completely unlikely eventuality that he manages to be a passable player, if you acquire him in trade you're looking at paying through the nose for his atrocious talent.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Man, take off the homer glasses. Wiseman isn’t playing for a team that won a ring last year. They have a much higher standard than the Spurs do right now. If Wiseman was a Spur he’d be getting regular minutes. I like Bassey. I hope he becomes the next 50, but he’s not done anything to warrant not making a trade that your post said made sense for everyone.

[tonight...you]

That is some ugly stuff.

[exstatic]

Wiseman wouldn't be getting regular minutes with any team in the league. Not sure if you've been watching at all.

Beside the fact that he doesn't know how to play basketball and after four years has no clear ap ude for learning how, he's on an ungodly salary tier given his draft number. In the completely unlikely eventuality that he manages to be a passable player, if you acquire him in trade you're looking at paying through the nose for his atrocious talent.

He’s barely into his second season of play, but the rest of your points are valid. Contending teams tend to bobble lottery picks, because even high picks need instruction and development, and that kind of team isn’t constructed to do that. GS with Wiseman, and Boston with Langford, a lower lottery pick are two recent examples.

When you have someone as raw as Wiseman, who with only 3 games at Memphis was basically a HS player, they really need player development and a full season in the gleague. Yes, even as a #2 overall pick. There is a development window in approximately the first two years,that if you miss it, cannot be revisited. He’s almost outside that window now. Unfortunately for him, I see a path that has been traveled before by Marvin Bagley, another #2 pick that didn’t meet the expectations of the draft slot. Sacramento realized it, tried to monetize him, failed, and ended up dumping him to Detroit for pennies. Bagley was a lot more developed, and they got Donte DiVincenzo in that multi team trade. I’m not sure if they can monetize Wiseman at all.

[Thomas82]

He’s barely into his second season of play, but the rest of your points are valid. Contending teams tend to bobble lottery picks, because even high picks need instruction and development, and that kind of team isn’t constructed to do that. GS with Wiseman, and Boston with Langford, a lower lottery pick are two recent examples.

When you have someone as raw as Wiseman, who with only 3 games at Memphis was basically a HS player, they really need player development and a full season in the gleague. Yes, even as a #2 overall pick. There is a development window in approximately the first two years,that if you miss it, cannot be revisited. He’s almost outside that window now. Unfortunately for him, I see a path that has been traveled before by Marvin Bagley, another #2 pick that didn’t meet the expectations of the draft slot. Sacramento realized it, tried to monetize him, failed, and ended up dumping him to Detroit for pennies. Bagley was a lot more developed, and they got Donte DiVincenzo in that multi team trade. I’m not sure if they can monetize Wiseman at all.

All of what you said is true, and I never believed Wiseman was a good fit for the Warriors to begin with.

[CGD]

Warriors trying to be cute and build this guy as an asset, but at their tax bill I can see him being dumped next season.

If spurs really want him just wait. There are other opportunities to be had with Jakobs situation.

[scott]

He’s barely into his second season of play, but the rest of your points are valid. Contending teams tend to bobble lottery picks, because even high picks need instruction and development, and that kind of team isn’t constructed to do that. GS with Wiseman, and Boston with Langford, a lower lottery pick are two recent examples.

When you have someone as raw as Wiseman, who with only 3 games at Memphis was basically a HS player, they really need player development and a full season in the gleague. Yes, even as a #2 overall pick. There is a development window in approximately the first two years,that if you miss it, cannot be revisited. He’s almost outside that window now. Unfortunately for him, I see a path that has been traveled before by Marvin Bagley, another #2 pick that didn’t meet the expectations of the draft slot. Sacramento realized it, tried to monetize him, failed, and ended up dumping him to Detroit for pennies. Bagley was a lot more developed, and they got Donte DiVincenzo in that multi team trade. I’m not sure if they can monetize Wiseman at all.

A good reminder that getting a top 2 pick doesn't mean you'll get a franchise-altering player! Granted, it can definitely be argued that had Wiseman been a Spurs instead of a Warrior he could be on a different path right now... but he also just might suck, period.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wiseman wouldn't be getting regular minutes with any team in the league. Not sure if you've been watching at all.

Beside the fact that he doesn't know how to play basketball and after four years has no clear ap ude for learning how, he's on an ungodly salary tier given his draft number. In the completely unlikely eventuality that he manages to be a passable player, if you acquire him in trade you're looking at paying through the nose for his atrocious talent.

I’m not saying I want to trade for him the point is twofold: 1. Having Bassey is no reason not to do the trade. He hasn’t shown enough at this point for the Spurs to forgo making a trade. 2. Wiseman is in his 3rd season and has been injured for 1 and 1/2 seasons. As I said he would be a low risk developmental project at this point if the PATFO saw something in him. And as for not getting minutes if he was a Spur, we have the biggest net negative in the league we are playing lots of guys still learning to play basketball.

[lmbebo]

https://heatnation.com/rumors/report...sh-richardson/

Duncan Robinson contract is awful ....