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    You need to see these players play around Wemby before writing them off. That's the bottom line. Lots of players on this team where being a 2nd star is within their ceiling
    Too many video game GM’s want to overhaul the roster while completing ignoring that we have some pretty high level players that produce and could excel in a non-tanking environment.

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    I just hope Victor stays healthy and is half as good as the hype tbh.
    Victor will be great.

    It's the rest of the team that needs an upgrade.

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    I think a few things are clear:

    Tbh, the bar isn’t high anymore for a second guy to rise up. Jamal Murray isn’t a spectacular player compared to big time second fiddles like Shaq, Pippen, Paul Pierce.
    @ calling Shaq a "second fiddle" & putting him in the same level of a Paul Pierce and Scottie Pippen. Salinas, you done lost your friggin' mind. Dude is arguably the most physically dominant center to ever play the game. How many MVP's did Pippen or Pierce ever win? Shaq won 3 consecutive Finals MVP's and was practically unstoppable. But go on..

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    In five pages of this thread not one poster brought up Keldon as a possible, much less probable, second or even third star--any yet he is the only Spur on the roster to have a 20+ ppg average. This seems like a deliberate oversight/omission by a lot of posters who often laud him and say he should remain a starter. And further that he shouldn't be trade bait. WTF. I think you MIGHT be able to cobble up a trade for our second star by using KJ plus some draft choices we have in the bank. If everyone posting that our future second banana is either gonna be Devin or Sochan is consistent with their analysis, then trading KJ is a no brainer. We need to get him out of the way of some players with better skills and higher ceilings.

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    In five pages of this thread not one poster brought up Keldon as a possible, much less probable, second or even third star--any yet he is the only Spur on the roster to have a 20+ ppg average. This seems like a deliberate oversight/omission by a lot of posters who often laud him and say he should remain a starter. And further that he shouldn't be trade bait. WTF. I think you MIGHT be able to cobble up a trade for our second star by using KJ plus some draft choices we have in the bank. If everyone posting that our future second banana is either gonna be Devin or Sochan is consistent with their analysis, then trading KJ is a no brainer. We need to get him out of the way of some players with better skills and higher ceilings.
    He only avg that much cause of the amount of shots he got.

    Hes a good player with a low ceiling.

    I like Keldon but hes not gonna be a star. Hes not better than a prime Sean Elliott, thats all.

    Great pick up at pick 29, but not nor will be a star. thats the reality.

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    Exactly and the Spurs are also going to be cautious with Wemby's minutes. They aren't going to play him into the ground early on so those expecting a.500 record or better are not being realistic on how good this roster is.

    Outside of Wemby this roster is the weakest in the league. I'd trade the Spurs top three players outside of Wemby for any other team's top three players.

    Who wouldn't trade Sochan, Vassell, Johnson, for Cade, Duren, Ivey?

    or Houston for Jabari Smith, Green, Amen Thompson for Sochan, Vassell and Johnson
    Lol you're a ing idiot.

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    @ calling Shaq a "second fiddle" & putting him in the same level of a Paul Pierce and Scottie Pippen. Salinas, you done lost your friggin' mind. Dude is arguably the most physically dominant center to ever play the game. How many MVP's did Pippen or Pierce ever win? Shaq won 3 consecutive Finals MVP's and was practically unstoppable. But go on..
    The Lakers ring with any number of other shooting guards. Without Shaq they are also-rans in the west.

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    He only avg that much cause of the amount of shots he got.

    Hes a good player with a low ceiling.

    I like Keldon but hes not gonna be a star. Hes not better than a prime Sean Elliott, thats all.

    Great pick up at pick 29, but not nor will be a star. thats the reality.
    Precisely. Time to move him if the consensus is that you need Devin and Sochan developing into that second and third star. He'll never be worth more in a trade than this summer.

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    Precisely. Time to move him if the consensus is that you need Devin and Sochan developing into that second and third star. He'll never be worth more in a trade than this summer.

    which I’m fine with, however, I’ll say this, I’m not giving him up for nothing. Not selling him off just to clear space.

    his perfect role is 6th man, and if he embraces it this team is all the better for it.

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    which I’m fine with, however, I’ll say this, I’m not giving him up for nothing. Not selling him off just to clear space.

    his perfect role is 6th man, and if he embraces it this team is all the better for it.
    He embraced it during the Olympics. It’s a non-issue, really. Keldon’s well aware of talented players on his team.

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    Keldon is the one player the Spurs would be stupid to part with for the following reason: he lost for you last year. He plays his guts out and he went along with tanking for the good of the team. You can unleash him this year and tell him that he can win. He will go through a brick wall for this team.

    You guys criminally undervalue Keldon as a player while simultaneously overrating his trade value. It's comical.

    Keldon Johnson may never become a hall of famer, but it won't be for lack of commitment or work.

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    There is extreme blind optimism after getting lucky with Wemby thinking the current roster is good as it is.

    Outside of Wemby the roster is the worst in the league. And no Sochan and Vassell are not future all star level players.

    Still need to surround Wemby with a better core.
    The one question is will wemby make others better around him ?

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    The one question is will wemby make others better around him ?
    How so

    Expectations are now Wemby making other players more than what they are.

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    I'd wager based on the current criteria for "Star" or All-Star at the very least (ie. Team record Pre All-Star Break, PPG Leaders, perception/relationship to WC coaches), Keldon will be in contention for a reserve selection as soon as next season.
    Wemby will likely be in contention for a starting position.

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    More than a star, imo Wemby/the team needs a veteran who could show him the ropes, be like a big brother
    That many young players is bad on the short term (next season)

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    Run what you have this year. Add a couple vets for knowledge. I’d think Devin could grow into that 2 or 3 option. But don’t add big money outsiders till the league truly respects Wemby. No need for outside ego right now

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    More than a star, imo Wemby/the team needs a veteran who could show him the ropes, be like a big brother
    That many young players is bad on the short term (next season)
    They have McDermott and Graham, who by all accounts are super dudes. I do want to add another, at least. Patty Mills is on his lsat $7 mill this next year and Brooklyn is moving in another direction. Would love to flip a highly protected second to get him back; Nets should be happy to move on. Then there's Nicolas Batum, who is on an expiring for the Clippers. He's still a valuable player, but they're deep in cap . Unlikely, but it would be cool to grab him, too, and he could actually spell time at the SF.

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    Hopefully all the players get the message that this upcoming season is the chance to prove themselves and stop the inconsistent bull or else they're trade fodder after the year. This won't be a carefree tank season.

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    Hopefully all the players get the message that this upcoming season is the chance to prove themselves and stop the inconsistent bull or else they're trade fodder after the year. This won't be a carefree tank season.
    I'm sure they have no idea what's going on. I'm glad you can explain it to them.

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    I'm sure they have no idea what's going on. I'm glad you can explain it to them.
    Says the guy who wants a washed Patty Mills, should we give him another $50 million?

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    Like others have said, Vassell showed off his offensive bag last season, KJ a bonafide 18-20 scorer. And Sochan is literally light years better on offense than we ever would have thought.

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    Like others have said, Vassell showed off his offensive bag last season, KJ a bonafide 18-20 scorer. And Sochan is literally light years better on offense than we ever would have thought.
    If the offense clicks, and it should be good, it could be hard to handle for a lot of teams. The question is PG but we have enough options to keep things going.

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    Sochan and Vassell can grow into the no 2 and no 3 role. Hard to know if it will be enough to win a le though.

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    Anfernee Simons. Trade whatever outside of Sochan and Wemby. That’s your trio. Go win playoff games.

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