personally i'd like to have at least 1-2 all stars alongside victor
Without 2 I'd rather have none, so that Victor gets to develop. Having a Paul George type who enables the Spurs to miss the playoffs with a worse than 1st overall pick lottery chance is, to me, worse than having some role guys who are at the tail end of their careers and know how to move the ball, so that Victor can learn. That's assuming Paul George is all star caliber, but I'd certainly take a Greek Freak/Jokic combo.
playing on a garbage roster like we have now does little for development because it doesnt emulate the type of ball you will be playing on a winning team. you can only develop so much playing like this. its like being assigned to the gleague. you can dominate there as long as you want, but you arent learning winning NBA ball
The Jim Boylen who forgot to sub Kawhi back in for the rest of the game and who Manu had to walk around, and sub himself back into the game?
Bud makes so much sense. has the corporate knowledge and all, but also has proven to be a good coach on multiple stops and clearly isnt washed or senile
The same Jim Boylen that the old man literally begged to join his coaching staffThe Jim Boylen who forgot to sub Kawhi back in for the rest of the game and who Manu had to walk around, and sub himself back into the game?
Jim Boylen would look like prime Phil Jackson compared to the greatest generation POS we have coaching the team now
I doubt you're winning anything with this roster + one all star. For that reason I'd prefer no all stars to just one, because just one means that one took the bulk of the stats and made the all star team. With 2 making it, the team probably did pretty well considering. Of course, I am not referring to organically developed all stars, but free agents. Imagine James Harden in San Antonio.
I'd rather not go backward just to win 30 games instead of 12. Just take the Ls until we draft a legit future all-star guard.
Give me a ing break, you think you are getting a Murray a first rounder and another swap? Like they have to pay teams to take him? And $18 million ain't in today's nba
This draft is atrocious
I’d definitely take DJM back. You have PG with pick and roll skills ( midrange jumpshot, passer , defender ). He racked up assist playing with a limited Center like Poetl. Imagine the high % shots Wemby would get. Poetl had his pop a shot, but Wemby can hit the 3, hit the J and can dunk. DJM would have a field D. On the flip side Murray could pressure the Ball with Wemby being the back line defender.
As far as a trade, no way would I give back everything Atlanta gave up. But I’d definitely give up at least a 1st along with Keldon and maybe salary filler. I’d also hang onto some of those 1st round picks obtained via trades, not to draft but to package to get another wing star. Then we’d have Wemby, DJM and an all star wing. Amassing these picks is only valuable for trade purposes nothing else. I don’t trust the front office from a drafting standpoint as of late (minus Wemby obviously).
Some are enamoured with amassing picks and thinking about building around Wemby for a Decade, yet don’t think about the fact that Wemby can simply leave as a FA when his contract is up. It’s early but this losing business would sour me if I’m Wemby especially if there is seemingly no direction or plan. People forget Tim Duncan almost left in FA after winning multiple 50 game seasons and a championship. Imagine if TD left, we’d only have that 1 ring. You don’t screw around and experiment with a Phenom. Especially in todays league stars can leave in an instant. They need to let Wemby know they’re serious about improving.
I don't want Dejounte back, but I do think he is misused in Atlanta-- and it shows the danger of building around an undersized defensive liability as your centerpiece. The Hawks got DJ hoping to shore up their defense, but moving him to SG immediately mitigates his size and length advantage as a PG. Instead of smothering opposing PGs with that height and length advantage, he's now guarding SGs, who are generally going to be similarly sized, and he's next to a 6'1" PG who every team wants to switch on.
I don't get why some are considering DJ's run in Atlanta to be a failed experiment. They've been making the playoffs YOY. DJ is along the same lines as White, as soon as he finds a decent team with a role that suits his contribution abilities, we'll hear his name more.
I don't want DJ but this right here needs to be said a lot more. We have a generational talent and you don't look to build from the draft on players that may or may not be good in 3-4 more years. Spurs do need to be looking for established players that fit around Wemby, and even willing to trade pics to do so.
If we hadn't landed Wemby last year then yes continue to search the draft for that franchise player to build around. People forget that even LeBron left Cleveland the first time(the team he always wanted to play with growing up as a kid) for some of these reasons.
Wemby is our guy and this FO needs to be doing everything to show how committed that they are that he is our franchise. Wemby is the type of person that wants to compete and losing will wear on him and he will become disgruntled. It migh already have but he is well mannered and professional so he will not show it openly.
A young player would benefit from an Xs and Os coach, or a motivator like Scott Drew.
Pop is neither. And now he doesn't even care enough to yell at guys for ing up. I will root for whatever team Victor goes to because I don't want to be rooting for the Spurs when they move out of town.
If he wanted back id do it. He’s 6’5 and can guard most 1-3’s. We traded him to get Wemby so mission accomplished. Quickly might be a better scorer though.
Stop by here today to say no. The guy’s a bag.
Why on earth would we give them so much?
They made the playoffs once, and didn’t advance past the first round, which is exactly where they were before dropping 3 FRPs and a swap to get him. I call that a failed experiment, and a very expensive one at that.
that Jim Boylen, who had to sub in the third stringers in crunch time when he was coaching the Bulls to make sure they lose the game instead of Pop who loses ever game by 20 with the startersThe Jim Boylen who forgot to sub Kawhi back in for the rest of the game and who Manu had to walk around, and sub himself back into the game?
I think this might be a good argument for keeping those picks. I don't this you make a backward move on him.
I'm not opposed to bringing him back at all, but the notion of giving up two first round picks plus young players and or a swap for him is fairly insane to me. At this point we're looking at 2-3 years before we contend at the earliest and I don't see how DJM is a good fit on that timeline. I'm not giving away that much draft capital for DJM.
DJM was super emo yet basically a good player for us. It felt like we avoided a dramatic crisis with him but he may be more mature now and maybe as fans we were expecting another Kawhi problem. Generally, I say let him stay there in case he is part of their problem. If they are trying to trade him, it sort of suggests he is part of the problem for whatever reason, and since we want them to be crappy in a few years, I hope this lingers.
Besides all the other issues, dejounte proved you can't count on him in the playoffs when he got himself suspended for game 5 because he had to make contact with the ref
Kinda sad they are looking to trade him. Say what you want about DJ but I think he truly is a loyal dude. I'm sure he signed that extension and even took a small discount to stay in Atlanta only for them to try trading him months later. I'm sure he isn't happy about that.
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