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    The spurs could’ve had Cody Williams. Come on.

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    And what is even worse is that half of you think Castle is a good pick. I'm pretty much with Nate Duncan, who in the last week put Castle last on all the prospects they scouted including behind Dillingham and said if the Spurs took Castle it would be a disaster because he couldn't think of a worse fit. Russillo predraft was laughing at the idea of the Spurs repeating their point guard experimental failure from last year

    This was a disaster of draft night

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    am I the only one happy about this? I like Dilly but they essentially got two unprotected firsts for him from a franchise that's historically a dumpster fire.
    I think I read one of them is protected. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when the full details emerge and it's lottery protected, tbh.

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    loving this

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    Nate Duncan!

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    The spurs could’ve had Cody Williams. Come on.
    That’s how I feel. Should’ve taken Cody, or trade 4/8 for 1 after all. Jeesh.

    Only thing I can think of if that they are a landing place for Thobias Harris to address the need at 3

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    And what is even worse is that half of you think Castle is a good pick. I'm pretty much with Nate Duncan, who in the last week put Castle last on all the prospects they scouted including behind Dillingham and said if the Spurs took Castle it would be a disaster because he couldn't think of a worse fit. Russillo predraft was laughing at the idea of the Spurs repeating their point guard experimental failure from last year

    This was a disaster of draft night
    Well that's his opinion and we'll see but considering Wrights history i wouldn't be suprised if he's less than stellar. Spurs don't get credit for backing into an obvious pick in Wemby.

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    Seems like a weak return for the 8th pick but not sure I blame them for not wanting yet another 19 year old.

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    Part of me wants to believe there’s a player they have in mind but I also don’t see the Spurs hitting the free agency / trade market hard. They never have. What’s even a tantalizing enough offer for a star player that doesn’t cripple you? Spurs 25, Chi 25, Spurs 27, Min 31 and Keldon?

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    This is a finiancial move. There were rumors the Spurs didn't want to pay for two lottery picks so why not bail when you're picks get ruined and pay down your stupid country club for rich people. This organization is rudderless and can't make a big move to save their life. If i'm Wemby i put pressure on this team to start building now and stop ing around. RIP to all the guys in this thread who will be dead by the time these picks convey.

    Probably right. But 2031? 2030? I'm sure by then we'll... or at least... those still around will be happy but right now?

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    It’s #1 protected

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    And what is even worse is that half of you think Castle is a good pick. I'm pretty much with Nate Duncan, who in the last week put Castle last on all the prospects they scouted including behind Dillingham and said if the Spurs took Castle it would be a disaster because he couldn't think of a worse fit. Russillo predraft was laughing at the idea of the Spurs repeating their point guard experimental failure from last year

    This was a disaster of draft night
    They’re net worse shooting wise today than they were last year since Devonte is likely gone.

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    I think I read one of them is protected. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when the full details emerge and it's lottery protected, tbh.
    Only #1 protected it looks like

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    A couple of years back we got 3 first round picks, of course we didn't trade a single one of those back then.

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    The issue with the idea of stacking picks to trade for a star is we just saw how much that costs, and it's way too much. The Spurs got one fifth of a lesser-star package for a top-10 pick. It's not a good trade. Literally taking the best prospect on the board and hoping they become a good player would have made more sense for that purpose.

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    I was just saying on RGM that this feels very much like a Hinkie move. Just that constant need to add assets with no real concept of what they're for. Hinkie got canned after years of mismanaging the roster for the purpose to getting those picks. Wright needs to either show he can do something with them or get canned himself. Picking a guy with an uphill battle to be a PG is not going to cut it.
    Prestie did the same thing and it's working out. Hickie purposely hacked his team

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    I know these ing re s did not trade rob for a pick 5 years from now. Wright probably won't have a job by then
    Correct, those ing re s traded him for a pick 7 years from now.

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    Been thinking about this more... and if there is a trade coming THIS offseason that hinges on these picks (highly doubtful, btw... we have plenty of assets already to pull off any trade we would have wanted... adding a 2031 first isn't going to be the deal maker/breaker)... then I'll take this back.

    But this is just bad value. Even if this is a weak draft, the time value deterioration of the the pick coming back (seven years?!? seriously?!?) massive erodes the return. If you told me we were trading #35 for an FRP in 7 years, then I'd understand... but pick 8? Absolutely shameful. On value alone, this is like trading #8 for #27 straight up (which would obviously be a ing stupid move).

    So, like I said, unless there is something else already in the works - then I have a hard time understanding how anyone thought this was a good trade on the surface. PAFTO and Wright have completely lost the plot.

    This is being sold as the Spurs "loading up the warchest" - but that TOR pick was already part of the Warchest, and you didn't net any additional selections. Very strong odds that the 2031 pick will be worse than #8.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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    I was just saying on RGM that this feels very much like a Hinkie move. Just that constant need to add assets with no real concept of what they're for. Hinkie got canned after years of mismanaging the roster for the purpose to getting those picks. Wright needs to either show he can do something with them or get canned himself. Picking a guy with an uphill battle to be a PG is not going to cut it.
    Prestie did the same thing and it's working out. Hickie purposely hacked his team

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    Looking forward to timvp's Draft Grades thread when he inevitably gives PATFO an A+ anyways tbh

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    I have no faith that this is part of some master plan to make a big move this offseason. Would love to be proven wrong but I fully expect us to do nothing in the offseason aside from a small move here or there.

    “We don’t want to skip steps. Let’s run it back and see what we have with Branham and Wesley.” :pop

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    People keep saying "surely" 2031 will be better than 2024.

    I hear you all.

    But how do you know this? No one knows that.
    Not sure but sources tell me Buford/Wright are high on the U12 Boys Academy team in Slovenia.

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    Been thinking about this more... and if there is a trade coming THIS offseason that hinges on these picks (highly doubtful, btw... we have plenty of assets already to pull off any trade we would have wanted... adding a 2031 first isn't going to be the deal maker/breaker)... then I'll take this back.

    But this is just bad value. Even if this is a weak draft, the time value deterioration of the the pick coming back (seven years?!? seriously?!?) massive erodes the return. If you told me we were trading #35 for an FRP in 7 years, then I'd understand... but pick 8? Absolutely shameful. On value alone, this is like trading #8 for #27 straight up (which would obviously be a ing stupid move).

    So, like I said, unless there is something else already in the works - then I have a hard time understanding how anyone thought this was a good trade on the surface. PAFTO and Wright have completely lost the plot.

    This is being sold as the Spurs "loading up the warchest" - but that TOR pick was already part of the Warchest, and you didn't net any additional selections. Very strong odds that the 2031 pick will be worse than #8.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.
    Didn’t you do an analysis that valued present vs future firsts? My recollection was that future’s diminished in value over time compared to present picks.

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    The extra cap space can end up mattering. With the obligatory Graham trade, the team has just shy of $28 Million or basically a Keldon Johnson and Sidy Cissoko away from a Paul George or Jimmy Butler trade. Don't get me wrong -- this draft has deeply shaken my faith that the Spurs intend to maximize talent around Wemby this year. But the extra money could be an edge. It's still not a given the Spurs would even use cap space this year. But they would have an array of options, from providing a pretty big deal if they dump Graham to being able to keep Devonte's contract and still beating the MLE. This was not worth the sacrifice in my mind, but there are still paths forward that do not involve any blockbuster trade.

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