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    Prime example

    And, still, some team will give him another contract

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    And, still, some team will give him another contract
    Mo Bamba somehow keeps getting contracts.

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    Sorry, but calling a guy who plays no defense a 3 and D guy is kind of a homer take.
    Correct, except that most think his defense is decent. I haven’t really noticed him one way or another on D so I don’t need to disagree with the consensus that he plays some passable level of D. When it comes to paying someone $30 million who is a marginal upgrade on him at ten times the cost, I’d like to see a bit more Champagnie first (and cowbell while we are at it).

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    Correct, except that most think his defense is decent. I haven’t really noticed him one way or another on D so I don’t need to disagree with the consensus that he plays some passable level of D. When it comes to paying someone $30 million who is a marginal upgrade on him at ten times the cost, I’d like to see a bit more Champagnie first (and cowbell while we are at it).
    Not anybody who has seen him play.

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    Not anybody who has seen him play.
    I've seen him play, making your statement false single handedly.

    Now there is an article saying Castle starts at the 2 and Vassell at the 3. I am not bothering to post it since it is obviously just an opinion piece rather than gospel.

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    I've seen him play, making your statement false single handedly.

    Now there is an article saying Castle starts at the 2 and Vassell at the 3. I am not bothering to post it since it is obviously just an opinion piece rather than gospel.
    Yeah, but we've established that you're a homer. I like Julian, but he is a fringe NBA player at best, and only because of his shooting. I hope he steps up this season, but he's on a rather long list of young Spurs that we all hope develops into contributors.

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    I don't think I've ever seen a worse use of 2 top 10 draft picks in NBA history.

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    CP3 (26mpg) - Jones (22mpg)
    Vassell (34mpg) - Branham (18mpg)
    Castle (27mpg) - Johnson (26mpg)
    Sochan (28mpg) - Mamu (15mpg)
    Wemby (34mpg) - Collins (18mpg)

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    I think Champagnie was an experiment but he wasn’t starting material. Keldon is being mold as the Manu 6th man. Tre is a good backup PG where he should be. I suspect Castle will be playing SF, but should’ve opportunities to facilitate and learn from the point-god.

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    With CP3 in the fold that makes the starting line up a lot clearer. IIt would likely be Paul/Vassell/Castle/Sochan/Wembanyama with a combination of Tre/Malaki (or my preference of Blake)/Keldon/Champagnie (or Mamu)/Collins (or Bassey) off the bench.

    I would love for them to retain Cedi while moving on from one or both of Keldon and Zach, but that might not be in the cards just yet.

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    yeah, no he is not.

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    Very interested to hear peoples’ thoughts on this now. This thread was made before the start of FA, and with the addition of CP3/Barnes I think the decision will be a bit tougher.

    I’m guessing it’ll be CP3/Vassell/Sochan/Barnes/Wemby to start the year. I know Castle coming off the bench will piss people off here, but I just don’t see them benching Sochan or Barnes for him out of the gate.

    CP3 will inevitably miss games due to rest or legitimate injury, and isn’t going to be playing much more than 25 mpg anyways…so I think Castle will still get plenty of opportunity to play with the starters + land in ~25 mpg territory.

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    Very interested to hear peoples’ thoughts on this now. This thread was made before the start of FA, and with the addition of CP3/Barnes I think the decision will be a bit tougher.

    I’m guessing it’ll be CP3/Vassell/Sochan/Barnes/Wemby to start the year. I know Castle coming off the bench will piss people off here, but I just don’t see them benching Sochan or Barnes for him out of the gate.

    CP3 will inevitably miss games due to rest or legitimate injury, and isn’t going to be playing much more than 25 mpg anyways…so I think Castle will still get plenty of opportunity to play with the starters + land in ~25 mpg territory.
    I think that's what we'll see, and many combinations throughout the game. We should see Castle with Wemby, Castle with Paul, those sorts of things.

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    It will be interesting to see of Paul is kept or is he going to be traded or let go to sign with a team looking to make a serious Playoff push. Will also have to wait if they decide to package Keldon, Collins, Blake, for a player and picks.

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    I think to start the season it will be this.

    Paul/Tre
    Vassell/Castle
    Sochan/Keldon
    Barnes/Champ
    Wemby/Zach

    Barnes and Sochan will be interchangeable at the forward spots but Barnes will mostly guard the 4 man or bigger forward and Jeremy takes the quicker perimeter forward.

    I can see a scenario where Castle starts instead of Barnes but the spacing with Sochan and Castle seems like it would be a problem.

    Depending on how soon Castle develops then eventually he takes the starting PG spot once CP3 is traded to a contender.

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    CP3
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    Tre
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    More than likely an upgraded lineup we saw last season with Barnes starting instead of Champ. Maybe KJ back to the 4 where he played his best season so far.

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