Coach Pop Takes us to church this Sunday- please kneel.

[Dejounte]

You guy are incapable of exchanging without getting emotional, taking personnally and going ad hominem

But you think you belong to the camp of tolerance and rightfullness...

Bro, there is nothing emotional, personal, or intolerant with me suggesting to you to watch a 12 minute video to broaden your knowledge about a situation. If you reject any opportunity for education, that’s on you. But don’t come in here and suggest you’re being victimized when I’m trying to find a middle ground with you.

[koriwhat]

You guy are incapable of exchanging without getting emotional, taking personnally and going ad hominem

But you think you belong to the camp of tolerance and rightfullness...

Welcome to my world, bro!

[baseline bum]

You guy are incapable of exchanging without getting emotional, taking personnally and going ad hominem

But you think you belong to the camp of tolerance and rightfullness...

You're incapable of answering a simple question.

[Pauleta14]

LOL you accusing anyone of oversimplifying when you say durr see same bull , Democrats' war in Ukraine just like Republican wars (eg invading Iraq for oil).

You really need to educate yourself on the topic to understand its complexity and I'm not over simplifying, I'm doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE

[Pauleta14]

Bro, there is nothing emotional, personal, or intolerant with me suggesting to you to watch a 12 minute video to broaden your knowledge about a situation. If you reject any opportunity for education, that’s on you. But don’t come in here and suggest you’re being victimized when I’m trying to find a middle ground with you.

The post was directed at whoever attacks and insults me instead of exchanging in a civil way. Not you in particular

No I'm not going to watch your 12' video, and you shouldn't either. That's not how one educate himself bro.

It's messed up to think a kid on youtube is going to sumarise in 12' such a complex topic. You can't have just one source of information to start with and if you want to listen to an opinion, chose the most neutral and educated ones, not the ones living off of clicks

But thx for the offer/intention tho ^^

[baseline bum]

You really need to educate yourself on the topic to understand its complexity and I'm not over simplifying, I'm doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE

Putin wants Ukraine because it's a soft underbelly of flat land to easily march troops into Russia. Tough , Ukraine doesn't want to be under the umbrella of the nation that committed genocide against it 90 years ago. So after Putin invaded in Ukraine which option did you want Biden to take? (1) Let Russia take Ukraine (2) Cold war with Russia to keep it from taking Ukraine (3) Hot war with Russia to keep it from taking Ukraine. Those are the only three choices but I know you won't answer.

[Dejounte]

The post was directed at whoever attacks and insults me instead of exchanging in a civil way. Not you in particular

No I'm not going to watch your 12' video, and you shouldn't either. That's not how one educate himself bro.

It's messed up to think a kid on youtube is going to sumarise in 12' such a complex topic. You can't have just one source of information to start with and if you want to listen to an opinion, chose the most neutral and educated ones, not the ones living off of clicks

But thx for the offer/intention tho ^^

You told me to search Google for a few key words. A military analyst who specializes in maritime and has done intensive research on the subject is objectively better than your suggestion of doing an internet search on Google. I also didn’t need to do any more research than I have because I have been following this subject for more than a year, and I merely chose the best and most informative video that summarizes the situation better than most media… this is not really an honest conversation if you refuse to engage and watch the video.

[Pauleta14]

Putin wants Ukraine because it's a soft underbelly of flat land to easily march troops into Russia. Tough , Ukraine doesn't want to be under the umbrella of the nation that committed genocide against it 90 years ago. So after Putin invaded in Ukraine which option did you want Biden to take? (1) Let Russia take Ukraine (2) Cold war with Russia to keep it from taking Ukraine (3) Hot war with Russia to keep it from taking Ukraine. Those are the only three choices but I know you won't answer.

Thanks for not only making my point but also offering me a closure...

You should start your tiktok channel about History, any topic done in 1min (3 lines, perfect!)

[ambchang]

This is the result of normalizing conservative :

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/sE93SlD5p6

When did the bible talk about the 19th amendment?

[baseline bum]

Thanks for not only making my point but also offering me a closure...

You should start your tiktok channel about Historyany topic done in 1min (3 lines, perfect!)

Still refuse to answer what Biden should have done when Putin invaded but want to equate it with Bush's war for oil in Iraq.

[BackHome]

Since your asking questions I have one how come there were no Wars when Trump was in office and now when Biden came to power we have Wars all over the place? Also, wasn’t it Obama that allowed Russia to annex Crimeria - I am curious to hear your thoughts on that. So, so far under Democratic leadership we have allowed Russia to take almost 30% of Ukraine territory and hear I thought Democrats didn’t like Putin. What is that old saying “With friends like this who needs enemies”

[Pauleta14]

You told me to search Google for a few key words. A military analyst who specializes in maritime and has done intensive research on the subject is objectively better than your suggestion of doing an internet search on Google. I also didn’t need to do any more research than I have because I have been following this subject for more than a year, and I merely chose the best and most informative video that summarizes the situation better than most media… this is not really an honest conversation if you refuse to engage and watch the video.

I didn't think I'd need to explain you how internet works. It's on me, my bad.

So basically once you've done your search with a few key words, magically millions of possibilities will offer themselves to you in the form of a list of links you just have to click on.

All you need to do is chose as many as you want, don't worry they're all FREE!!

Choose wisely tho, I'd advise you to avoid anything that looks comfortable to you like short videos or anything vulgarising complex topics, it's the best way to end up spitting cliches and overly simplistic theories in public...

Good luck to you and keep me updated!

[Pauleta14]

Still refuse to answer what Biden should have done when Putin invaded but want to equate it with Bush's war for oil in Iraq.

You're basically asking me, once Biden's adm did everything they could to make Putin act the way he did, What choice does Biden have but do the things that he's doing...

Do you realise the insanity of your question mate?

And now go back and read my answers. All I was saying is the picture you're describing isn't exhaustive and you ask me to take a position based on it.

[Dejounte]

I didn't think I'd need to explain you how internet works. It's on me, my bad.

So basically once you've done your search with a few key words, magically millions of possibilities will offer themselves to you in the form of a list of links you just have to click on.

All you need to do is chose as many as you want, don't worry they're all FREE!!

Choose wisely tho, I'd advise you to avoid anything that looks comfortable to you like short videos or anything vulgarising complex topics, it's the best way to end up spitting cliches and overly simplistic theories in public...

Good luck to you and keep me updated!

Ah, now you’re the one behaving in a manner you condemned others for just an hour ago. I was telling you respectfully that doing a google search is not a true way to “educate oneself”, yet you come back with disrespect. Don’t criticize others when you’re going to turn around and do the same thing as them. I’ve already told you that this is a topic I’m well versed in after following it for over a year, and yet you refuse to take even one step to understand my position. This is not sincere with you. You don’t want to participate and put in any effort. Just say that.

[baseline bum]

You're basically asking me, once Biden's adm did everything they could to make Putin act the way he did, What choice does Biden have but do the things that he's doing...

Do you realise the insanity of your question mate?

And now go back and read my answers. All I was saying is the picture you're describing isn't exhaustive and you ask me to take a position based on it.

Go back and read what answers? Your ducking questions with a hand wavey 'it's complicated' while equating the Ukraine war to Bush's invasion of Iraq (unless you meant different wars the GOP started)? Now you're pretending Biden was about to admit Ukraine into NATO and forced Putin's hand?

[Ef-man]

Since your asking questions I have one how come there were no Wars when Trump was in office and now when Biden came to power we have Wars all over the place? Also, wasn’t it Obama that allowed Russia to annex Crimeria - I am curious to hear your thoughts on that. So, so far under Democratic leadership we have allowed Russia to take almost 30% of Ukraine territory and hear I thought Democrats didn’t like Putin. What is that old saying “With friends like this who needs enemies”

No wars under the felon’s belt????

He was knee deep in Afghanistan and with ISIS in Iraq/Syria.

[KingKev]

The funniest part about Coach Pop when it comes to politics is that he holds strikingly similar, and narcissistic traits as Trump.

[Spurs Homer]

Still not ONE inaccurate thing in pops 10 minute truth nuke sermon….

All truth bombs and instead we have a bunch of distractions to defend the criminal felon rapist traitor…

who cares about the other stuff when the traitor attempted a coup, mishandled covid, committed treason at helsinki in front of the world and has been convicted of 34 felonies with 50 something more felonies pending trials?

[CGD]

Still not ONE inaccurate thing in pops 10 minute truth nuke sermon….

All truth bombs and instead we have a bunch of distractions to defend the criminal felon rapist traitor…

who cares about the other stuff when the traitor attempted a coup, mishandled covid, committed treason at helsinki in front of the world and has been convicted of 34 felonies with 50 something more felonies pending trials?

And the Bone Spurs, don’t forget the poor guy’s Bone Spurs.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's hilarious how yall regressives don't like labels but yall label everyone not in your death cult.

What's your handle on 4chan?

When did I say I don't like labels, whatever that means? What are you on about? Conservatives say such derpy .

When did the bible talk about the 19th amendment?

The Christian holy book says whatever a given proselytizer needs it to say as they are blabbing in the moment, per the religion's tradition.

[Ef-man]

The Christian holy book says whatever a given proselytizer needs it to say as they are blabbing in the moment, per the religion's tradition.

The same book used to justify slavery in the US.

If only the magas could put in as much effort into studying history as they put in researching the origins, effects, and treatment of the Chyna flu.

[Pauleta14]

Ah, now you’re the one behaving in a manner you condemned others for just an hour ago. I was telling you respectfully that doing a google search is not a true way to “educate oneself”, yet you come back with disrespect. Don’t criticize others when you’re going to turn around and do the same thing as them. I’ve already told you that this is a topic I’m well versed in after following it for over a year, and yet you refuse to take even one step to understand my position. This is not sincere with you. You don’t want to participate and put in any effort. Just say that.

Don't you have any sense of self deprecation at all?

Pardon me for using sarcasm after being insulted and attacked for an hour

FYI you can find the same type of "informative" videos that argue the opposite. That's not an agument.

We can agree to disagree on a topic that isn't manichean. You haven't noticed but despite having a very diff pov than you or others, I haven't been insulting you bc I'm pissed you disagree.

Lastly in case you didn't notice, contrary to you I don't have a horse in the race that would by definition cloud my view. It's human nature, once you chose a camp, you become biased and defend your "team".

I'm uber critic on both sides. I'm on the side on the people whoever they are and on the side on the democracy and its pillars/counter powers that are a condition for its existence and subsistance. Free independant medias, justice or unions, transparency and accountability etc

All the rest is just a game you're not aware you're being a participant. The idea that so many ppl take time to listen to a candidate is mind boggling to me, it's like opening the door to a salesman and giving him a shot at manipulate you...

It just ends up dividing us as this convo has shown.

[Pauleta14]

Go back and read what answers? Your ducking questions with a hand wavey 'it's complicated' while equating the Ukraine war to Bush's invasion of Iraq (unless you meant different wars the GOP started)? Now you're pretending Biden was about to admit Ukraine into NATO and forced Putin's hand?

You can't accuse me of ducking bro, I keep answering despite trying to put an end to this convo multiple times...

I answered you in diff ways that you can't ask somone's opinion on a non exhaustive situation you present. You're telling me there's this or that choice, when in reality there are many others AND Biden was the one creating the situation that you're presenting.

My position is mostly agnostic, there are things I know and a lot more that I (we) don't.

Having a definitive pov for ppl in our position is abusrd. The most logical positon to have is agnosticism, humility and focus on the stuff we control. The world isn't black/white the way it was +50y ago and our countries/leaders aren't always the nice guys.

[Pauleta14]

The funniest part about Coach Pop when it comes to politics is that he holds strikingly similar, and narcissistic traits as Trump.

Even if the wisest, most decent human being that ever was, was put in Pop's situation for +2 decades , he'd end up with a god complex. It's human nature

[flox]

Pop should just shut up and dribble, assuming he can still actually dribble a basketball with his braindead takes.