Zach Lavine

[scott]

I have sympathy for Kings fans. They are extremely loyal, great fans... constantly being cucked by their incompetent ownership. The Maloofs were ing clowns but at least they put together a compe ive team for a stretch there (whatever happened to them? I wouldn't be shocked to learn they are in jail somewhere for some kind of massive fraud... they seemed like those types of dudes. I wonder if it comes down to it one day, the NBA will protect the Spurs the way they protected the Kings from moving to Seattle).

The saddest part to me is the way Kangz fans just come to expect this from their team. They've been beaten into submissive obedience. I'd love to see their fans get rewarded for their loyalty at some point.

[LeBowen]

They've been beaten into submissive obedience.

I wonder which fanbase reminds me of this...

[scott]

I wonder which fanbase reminds me of this...

There are similarities, though not perfectly analogous, that should be taken as lessons so they are not repeated.

Be patient. Don't skip steps. We have a plan. Pound the rock.

[BatManu20]

The biggest issue with LaVine is that he's such an atrocious defender that whatever he gives you offensively, he's going to give most of it back on the other end. And if he's not scoring 25+ ppg, he's just a net negative player altogether.

[timtonymanu]

Maybe Lavine instead of fox was the way

Your my dude but lol at this take

[baseline bum]

The biggest issue with LaVine is that he's such an atrocious defender that whatever he gives you offensively, he's going to give most of it back on the other end. And if he's not scoring 25+ ppg, he's just a net negative player altogether.

2025 Derek Anderson

[spurraider21]

i dont hate LaVine because i have specific expectations of him. he's usually a more consistent/efficient version of the Evan we've seen for the last couple of seasons. main character-ish offensive player who doesnt contribute defensively. the kings arent exactly the environment to make use of that skillset, since they have a number of playmaker types in sabonis/derozan/monk and nobody there plays defense

he did have a couple of nice games immediately after the trade, but kings fans realize the honeymoon period is over. its funny, a couple of games in, many of them on reddit thought lavine was the best player in the deal and that they managed to upgrade while also receiving picks. reality has set in now.

with Evan showing signs of life on defense lately, i just hope thats a sign of things to come

[scott]

i dont hate LaVine because i have specific expectations of him. he's usually a more consistent/efficient version of the Evan we've seen for the last couple of seasons. main character-ish offensive player who doesnt contribute defensively. the kings arent exactly the environment to make use of that skillset, since they have a number of playmaker types in sabonis/derozan/monk and nobody there plays defense

he did have a couple of nice games immediately after the trade, but kings fans realize the honeymoon period is over. its funny, a couple of games in, many of them on reddit thought lavine was the best player in the deal and that they managed to upgrade while also receiving picks. reality has set in now.

with Evan showing signs of life on defense lately, i just hope thats a sign of things to come

I like that Evan has become an event creator on the defensive end as of late. He's still a sieve, but if you're going to be a sieve, at least be one who creates events on the defensive end - and YungDev0 is doing just that (something that Lavine, who is the 95% outcome of Devin offensively, never does). Gotta give him props there.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Your my dude but lol at this take

Lavine has struggled for sure but Fox looked pretty mediocre too. Lavine definitely shoots the ball better.


Let’s see if the surgery helps.

[ambchang]

I’ve never really understood the desire to take on lavine. Great scorer, not a particularly good facilitator, not durable, terrible defender, at an even worse contract. He has never been on a winning team, let alone the driver of a winning team. He’s like derozan with range but without the passing, or rich man’s Vassell with a uber rich man’s salary.

I’m pushing the wiggins idea again. If we want a player like that might as well get wiggins. Wiggins is like 85% the offensive player lavine is, with better defence (more an indictment on lavine), proven a capable 3rd option on a winning team, and half the price. And he’s likely to come cheap.

[Ice009]

I was never really interested in Wiggins, but I am warming up to your idea now. Especially if it means maybe moving Devin in the process.