Spurs Showing Interest in Kristaps Porzingis (UPDATE: Porzingis Traded to the Atlanta Hawks)

[Ocotillo]

Nah Harris source there was Alvin Gentry whose son married Don's daughter or vice versa iirc. Harris isn't usually a good source but he had real info that time.

Gentry married Don Harris' sister.

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Yeah I would need the spurs to do an EXTENSIVE health check on Porzingis before being ok with this trade. This dude just randomly got some illness that people were reporting just doing some light jogging had him out of breath at times.

[poopbox]

Spurs have liked Porzingis for a long time. He was even a part of a supposed feud between the Spurs and Knicks FOs at one time. He's probably going to be cheap so the stars are aligning. His illness is a huge question mark, he was a walking corpse by the end of the season.

Another issue is that Boston need to get below the 2nd apron, and ideally below the tax too, and they're running out of contracts to do so. Porzingis for a Barnes + Branham package works and saves Boston some money, but not nearly enough. Beyond that they have to rely on sending Hauser into a TE, then White, Brown. They're running out of contracts to spin. Simons could theoretically be on the move once more.

According to the Knicks it stemmed for when they were secretly trying to trade him, we tried to trade for him but they didn't want anything we had, and supposedly we leaked to Porzingis the knicks were shopping him.

Supposedly the knicks had been shopping him for awhile without him knowing and then after they rebuffed the spurs poof he magically knew he was being shopped and confronted the knicks front office about it.

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Setting aside the medical concern (they'd obviously have to feel at least fairly confident to do this), usual homerism/hand wringing (no reason for the Celtics to add if the cost is only Barnes, Branham and/or Wesley and a 2nd(s), since the Spurs aren't the only option) and questioning the credibility of the source (Harris not doing the usual dismissing, but actually the opposite, is noteworthy) and focusing strictly on fit.

Beyond the obvious (elite floor spacing/rim protection for 48 minutes at C, at least in the 50-60 games he'd probably play in a best case scenario), the starters would be bereft a big wing defender.

[scott]

If Tingus were magically healthy and 100%... a Fox/Harper/Castle/Tingus/Wemby lineup would be pretty interesting and fun.

Too many assumptions required here though...

I'd do Devin for Tingus's expiring, but I doubt BOS would.

[exstatic]

A trade for Porzingis would likely have this structure:
Spurs: Barnes and Wesley or Branham for Porzingis
Celtics: Porzingis for Barnes
Third team: Branham or Wesley for nothing.

The third team would get a second round pick to take Branham/Wesley salary.

With that trade, Celtics would lower they payroll by $11.7M. With Tatum out, Barnes would be quite useful to them too.

Every team has to contribute something outgoing in a trade. Team 3 can’t simply take the tiny contract and be done with it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Mr. "has shown interest"

[LeBowen]

Hawks have a $25M trade exception.

Could Celtics just take Branham and send Barnes to Atlanta?
Obviously some SRPs would be involved, but you get the idea.

Mr. "has shown interest"

Not going to lie, you're looking like an idiot with the 180 turnaround just because your extensive twitter and podcast following to gather inside info turned out to be one of the biggest Ls in the recent spurstalk history.

[tbdog]

Just seems like a weird player to go for and moving forward with him. I suppose it's more of the shooting the spurs like?

[scott]

Hawks have a $25M trade exception.

Could Celtics just take Branham and send Barnes to Atlanta?
Obviously some SRPs would be involved, but you get the idea.

Yes, but reports are that ATL is going to be aggressive with using their TPE to improve their team. But this is definitely one thing they could do (just rent out the cap space using the TPE).

Similarly, BKN is interesting because they can create massive TPE's for other teams. For example, they could just take PG13 into their capspace and create a massive TPE for PHI.

[T Park]

If Tingus were magically healthy and 100%... a Fox/Harper/Castle/Tingus/Wemby lineup would be pretty interesting and fun.

Too many assumptions required here though...

I'd do Devin for Tingus's expiring, but I doubt BOS would.

The trade would be Barnes cause he’s expiring, and whoever to match.

I can 100% see it done with Barnes

[scott]

The trade would be Barnes cause he’s expiring, and whoever to match.

I can 100% see it done with Barnes

I'm less interested in that. Part of the value for me is getting off Vassell's deal and having an expiring in Tingus (and potentially flip at the deadline). But that's also why I said I doubt BOS would. They don't want long term money. But I don't really want a broken Tingus either.

[poopbox]

i really like KP the player, but the medicals are screaming "dont do this"

i'd only try to swing something like this if we are sending Keldon, not Barnes. i know this wouldnt make sense for the celtics either since they'd be locked into a 2 year deal instead of 1... but thats the price to take on the risk of KP while on this salary and needing an extension

Might have to be Barnes since he has one year left on his deal and the Celtics are primarily focused on shedding money.

Saw some reports that they had better offers as far as players when it came to trading Jrue but they specifically wanted a player who had only 1 year on his deal or one year and a team option on his deal and Simons was one of the few who fit that criteria.

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Might have to be Barnes since he has one year left on his deal and the Celtics are primarily focused on shedding money.

Saw some reports that they had better offers as far as players when it came to trading Jrue but they specifically wanted a player who had only 1 year on his deal or one year and a team option on his deal and Simons was one of the few who fit that criteria.

Definitely. Of all the rumored teams interested, the Spurs are the only one who can offer not only expiring's, but a player who can be useful to the Celtics next season and possibly beyond too.

All things being relatively equal, the Celtics also owe the Spurs for the White heist.

[rjv]

i guess it's possible that the spurs would throw barnes out there, to be a part of the new logo reveal, while secretly working on a trade that he'd be involved in, but the optics tell me that they wouldn't be getting ready to trade Harrison if they had him out there today. same goes for Keldon.

[spurraider21]

Might have to be Barnes since he has one year left on his deal and the Celtics are primarily focused on shedding money.

Saw some reports that they had better offers as far as players when it came to trading Jrue but they specifically wanted a player who had only 1 year on his deal or one year and a team option on his deal and Simons was one of the few who fit that criteria.

i believe so as well. im reluctant to move barnes instead of KJ though. not just for contractual reasons, but because we actually sorely needed Barnes' shooting last year, and with Harper now joining Fox and Castle, theres even less need for KJ's game.

as some others have mentioned, barnes could also be an extension or re-signing candidate as a good vet to keep around

[T Park]

i guess it's possible that the spurs would throw barnes out there, to be a part of the new logo reveal, while secretly working on a trade that he'd be involved in, but the optics tell me that they wouldn't be getting ready to trade Harrison if they had him out there today. same goes for Keldon.

100% that’s more “who’s in town right now that people know” than anything

[scott]

100% that’s more “who’s in town right now that people know” than anything

Spurs also just took HB to Mexico along with RC for some press events... part of it was for HB unveiling some courts he funded (Because he's a good dude who gives back to the community) but they could have done that without RC or the Spurs IP attached...

Not saying HB isn't on the block... but it would seem out of character for the Spurs to be putting HB in these positions to just turn around and trade him.

[ace3g]

[spurraider21]

Niang and one of Mann or OO gets it done salary wise while saving boston some money

both mann and OO have 3 years left on their deal (aka long term deals) though.

[spurraider21]

[spurraider21]

boom

[ace3g]

[Spurs Brazil]

[CGD]

Oh, forgot about that Atlanta TE. That makes a lot of sense.