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Its a hunch.
I just have this feeling Artest would behave here, because of the respect factor of those around him.
I find this inconcievable. Only way I can see Walsh and Bird interested in talent the Spurs may have and be willing to part with is if they are ape over Mahinmi among other players the Spurs would part with.
Its a hunch.
I just have this feeling Artest would behave here, because of the respect factor of those around him.
If he did not respect Reggie Miller, he is not going to respect Tim Duncan when the going gets tough. And the argument collapses.
YES. Thank you. I could not phrase it any more clearly than this. Exactly.
You don't think he would turn his back on the team during the playoffs?? hmmmm???
if spurs won with artest he would behave
pacers have been struggling
winning cures alot of things
In a beer-cup-tossing heartbeat.
I see that after all these years, IceMan still has done nothing to distinguish herself from the rest of the pack. Die slow, b1tch.
You are a skidmark of Spurs fandom.
Artest is a top 20 player and would thrive in our system.
We could've had him for Steve Smith for in 2001.
Let's not miss another opportunity.
I wouldn't mind the risk. I'm not sure the Spurs will want to risk it for the length of time on his contract though.
Plus, as Chump said, other teams have more to offer than the Spurs do. Unless you guys are offering Ginobili or something?
If I was the GM I would do it, if I knew he would behave. However, I know there would be fans who would hate Artest whether he behaved or not, simply because Manu would have been traded for him.
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I agree, he's a timebomb waiting to explode. The man can play, I don't deny that, that would be stupid. But his discipline record speaks for itself. One little thing to ignite him, and he's gone mental.
I think that's too much of a risk. If it paid out, I would not be opposed to Artest in a Spurs uniform. But it hasn't paid out anywhere else. Carlisle is a good coach - no respect. Reggie was a great player in the game - no respect. His team stood behind him from players to coaches to managers when he screwed up in one of the biggest ways possible. They didn't try to deal him or cut him or do anything but be publicly supportive and embrace him when he returned. He OWED them respect and this is what they've gotten for it.
Not gonna happen here. Even if he does like Timmy.
We don't like players from other teams. We only want players that we drafted. To with free agency and trades.
That's simply not the issue at all. I think the Finley signing was pretty well accepted. People seemed to think the NVE signing was O.K. The Spurs didn't draft Bowen, and he seems to be well-liked. People liked Marie Elie, AJ, Steve Kerr, SJax, and whole host of players that the Spurs didn't draft.
If we were talking about anyone other than the biggest nutcase in the league, this trade might have a ton of support. People realize that he's talented, but he's a huge risk. And when you've got a championship team and things are going well, it just doesn't make sense to make a move like that.
And, quite frankly, it's simply not going to happen.
I will just wait and see. I didn't think the Spurs would acquire Van Exel nor Finley and they did. I wanted them to get those above-mentioned, but didn't think they'd actually be in a Spurs uniform.
So, I will wait and see.
You serious Kori? Is he really schizo? I just thought he had a temper problem, but it turns out he is crazy instead?
I've never asked him myself; so I can't testify to it. But it has been in many articles over the years that he is supposed to be on meds, but he doesn't take them.You serious Kori? Is he really schizo? I just thought he had a temper problem, but it turns out he is crazy instead?
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You serious Kori? Is he really schizo? I just thought he had a temper problem, but it turns out he is crazy instead?
I'm telling you, this guy is bonkos!
I think the only player Indiana would be interested in is Gino, they would get a good SG in return an that is what they might look for...
...I don't think it will happen but I wonder how these rumors start?! Do you think they just make them up? I wonder how the know more than the insiders and league sources... I believe the Spurs aren't even intersted exept Indiana would take Barry/ Oberto but I highly doubt it.
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November 23, 2004
Artest is a tempting target for ridicule. He is as oblivious to reality as Latrell Sprewell, who recently huffed that his multimillion-dollar salary offer wasn't enough to feed his family.
You don't have to be a mental health professional to see that Artest needs a mental health professional and possibly an entire psychiatric task force.
The Chicago Bulls have been there, tried that, after Artest upended 500-pound exercise machines in their facility, and zinged basketballs, hard at the heads of teammates in the locker room. The psychiatrist prescribed medications, which Artest refused to take.
The legal system took its shot too. Artest was undergoing court-ordered anger-management therapy (the result of a non-basketball incident) last January when he flew into a rage at Madison Square Garden and destroyed a $100,000 camera and monitor.
The NBA has tried fines and suspensions -- this latest and longest is his 11th in four seasons plus three weeks.
Friday was powerful evidence that nothing has worked.
The thing about mental illness, or any illness for that matter, is that the patient can't be helped unless he admits there's a problem and wants to get better.
An individual with untreated heart trouble will eventually keel over somewhere and his life will be saved, or not, by paramedics and emergency-room doctors.
I'm telling you, this guy is bonkos!
If the Spurs won without Artest, even in the offchance that he snapped on our team, it's not like losing him in the playoffs would spell doom for the team.
He was the Pacers first or second best player.
On the Spurs, he'd be the third or fourth best and the Spurs have won without him.
It's all upside here.
But why would they want to pay him for 3 years if he wasn't contributing here?If the Spurs won without Artest, even in the offchance that he snapped on our team, it's not like losing him in the playoffs would spell doom for the team.
Like I said, if he had one year left, they'd probably risk it.
He has this year, plus two more seasons plus another season as a player option I believe.
Except that he could potentially injure another player in the course of snapping.
Except that he could seriously disrupt the locker room.
Except that he could very much distract from what they are trying to accomplish if he becomes a huge nuisance.
Except that every indicator he's given is that he does not want to he the third or fourth best player and wants stat lines more than championships.
Except that one of the things that makes the Spurs winners (from 99 onwards) is their team chemistry and lack of drama. They are good guys that play well together.
Excepting all of that, he'd be ideal. So would LeBron James, except for his large salary. I mean, if we're talking fantasy . . . it's wonderful. In real life? Doubtful and risky at best. Not worth it, when what we've got is working.
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