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    then who is SA210... who is best politician ever in your mind.... maybe the passage should say... all politicians have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God...

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    The level of hatred on his board for President Bush is appalling. Nothing he could do or say would change your feelings because your hatred is on a much deeper level.

    Many of you remind me of the Pharisees of Jesus' time. They criticized Jesus because he healed on the Sabbath, did not condemn the woman caught in adultery and socialized with sinners. In other words, Jesus did not fit their idea of "christianity". And then, when they couldn't silence him, they had him condemned to death because he dared to state that he was God. The Pharisees thought they had all the answers and that they alone could determine what was and wasn't proper.

    However, Jesus had the final word when he rose from the dead and he will have the ultimate final word when he returns to set up his earthly kingdom and judge the world. The bible says "at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that he is Lord."

    As time goes on, I believe George W. Bush will be shown to have been right and history will regard him as a great president.

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    My point is that Bush claims to be Christian. Plain and simple. So, he claims to be Christian. What is a Christian? As I have asked before, not according to different religions or what You want it to mean, but what is a "Christian" according to Christ himself? What is actually Biblical about being a Christian? Does that equal to Bush? No.

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    Okay, since you're so knowledgeable - what does a christian "according to the bible" really mean. Since you're so sure George W. Bush isn't one - what or who is?

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    You make so much sense. Interesting Bible you must learn from, that says u can compromise when You see fit.

    well, funny enough, i seem to remember a little story about noah and a flood that took out everyone.

    God makes the rules, i don't.

    we have free will. we are imperfect. mistakes will be made.

    Eliminating those that would Kill without regard for decency or humanity in the name of 'THEIR God' is not desired, but if it's them or us? And we're fighting for freedom and trying to defeat oppression? I KNOW which side i'm on. Do you?

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    Spin. That's what i am asking you.

    Tell me what makes him a "Christian".

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    Clinton got blown in the oval office. how christian.

    JFK screwed around on his wife.

    Reagan probobaly had an under the table deal to release hostages after he was in office....

    are you seeing a pattern...NO BODY IS PERFECT. Just cuz one claims to Follow Jesus, doesn't mean they will not fall....make mistakes. Do they pick themselves up and continue on the path? True Christians do.

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    Spin. That's what i am asking you.

    Tell me what makes him a "Christian".
    who are you?

    the burden of proof is on you!

    you claim to be a true christian.


    Tell us why YOU are a True Christian.

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    The level of hatred on his board for President Bush is appalling. Nothing he could do or say would change your feelings because your hatred is on a much deeper level.

    Many of you remind me of the Pharisees of Jesus' time. They criticized Jesus because he healed on the Sabbath, did not condemn the woman caught in adultery and socialized with sinners. In other words, Jesus did not fit their idea of "christianity". And then, when they couldn't silence him, they had him condemned to death because he dared to state that he was God. The Pharisees thought they had all the answers and that they alone could determine what was and wasn't proper.

    However, Jesus had the final word when he rose from the dead and he will have the ultimate final word when he returns to set up his earthly kingdom and judge the world. The bible says "at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that he is Lord."

    As time goes on, I believe George W. Bush will be shown to have been right and history will regard him as a great president.
    don't compare Bush to Jesus

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    well, funny enough, i seem to remember a little story about noah and a flood that took out everyone.

    God makes the rules, i don't.

    we have free will. we are imperfect. mistakes will be made.

    Eliminating those that would Kill without regard for decency or humanity in the name of 'THEIR God' is not desired, but if it's them or us? And we're fighting for freedom and trying to defeat oppression? I KNOW which side i'm on. Do you?
    Well, the reasonings for going to war are debateable. half or more than half this country is against it. So your reasoning for going to war doesn't hold much water.

    Neither does the bible say basically, "well, in That case, Go ahead"

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    who are you?

    the burden of proof is on you!

    you claim to be a true christian.


    Tell us why YOU are a True Christian.
    Spin again. The question was, what makes Bush a REAL Christian from the beginning. Why are yall having such a hard time answering it?

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    the bible DOES say that those that live by the sword will die by it.

    as far as i'm concerned, THEY drew 1st blood.

    and he wasn't comparing Bush to Jesus as much as he was comparing YOU to the pharisees. You gusy can't see the truth when it's right in front of your face.

    You are blinded by hate and fear.

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    Spin again. The question was, what makes Bush a REAL Christian from the beginning. Why are yall having such a hard time answering it?
    I cannot Judge who is and isn't a REAL Christian. I am NOT God.

    God has that Judgement.

    But I do believe Bush when he says he is a follower as I am.

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    Ok, fine.

    But what leads you to believe that Bush is telling the truth that he follows Jesus Christ? The Jesus from the bible of course.

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    Cuz he says so. Cuz he has resolve in the face of all criticism. Because he is doing what he feels is in the best interests of our country. Cuz he is driven by the desire to rid the world of those that would kill at any cost, indiscriminantly. Bush is not Jesus, and Bush is NOT perfect, okay. But damn if i don't respect the man for doing what he thinks is the right thing. Freedom. Freewill. Jesus would want that.

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    Cuz he says so. Cuz he has resolve in the face of all criticism. Because he is doing what he feels is in the best interests of our country. Cuz he is driven by the desire to rid the world of those that would kill at any cost, indiscriminantly. Bush is not Jesus, and Bush is NOT perfect, okay. But damn if i don't respect the man for doing what he thinks is the right thing. Freedom. Freewill. Jesus would want that.
    Racists think they are doing the right thing. That doesn't justify their actions. He's doing the wrong thing. Of course no one is perfect. He's doing what's in His best interest. That doesn't make him a follower of Christ.

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    Racists? You mean people that hate, albeit discriminantly?

    The terrorists are Racists. They use the term Infadels instead of other slurs.

    C'mon man, I know you see this.

    And yeah, it's in Bush's BEST INTEREST to Make Sure American is Protected at all costs....it's also his JOB.

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    Stop getting away from the question that was asked.

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    your the one that brought out the racist card brother.

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    I was giving an example, and also, like I said, stop getting away from the question asked.

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    I've answered you questions numerous times. It's not my fault you have comprehension issues.

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    You answered my question based on Your Compromising with Your wants to Christs teachings. That's all You did.

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    You answered my question based on Your Compromising with Your wants to Christs teachings. That's all You did.

    I want Peace on Earth. Goodwill toward men.

    I want to dispose of those that stand in the way of the above.

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    I want Peace on Earth. Goodwill toward men.
    Bombing for Peace is like Having Sex for Virginity.


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    210, what does your father think? if you don't mind me asking.

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