I was talking about americans
Its just I refer to them as them as tejanos
but since theyre in arkansas
and migrants
you cant call them that
then they are true mexicanos
anyway
not being from what I consider to be the historical south
not being white
and thinking for myself I consider it to be GOOD that the north won the civil war
its a bold cultural statement that I will never make
and will scoff others for making
I agree it was good the Union won. I stated that in previous replies in this thread. The Southern leaders were power driven and hungry.
I am proud to be where I'm from but it doesn't mean I am proud of everything that happend. The Union wasn't any better. Just less corrupt.
And you'll always be in the wrong for it too.
Texan's have felt less and less Southern, ever since the invention of the breakfast taco.
John Henry Faulk, who was raised in Austin, comes to mind as a notable person who remarked on the subtle, and not so subtle, transition from Southerner to Westerner as one moved west across Texas.
Historically, you may have a point or two, but speaking in terms of present day culture, the average Texan does not give a rat's ass about the confederacy, save the usual suspects (some small town East Texan bumpkins), which makes sense if you believe that the Confederacy and individualism are mutually exclusive.
No arguement here. I know squat about Texas and it's involvement in the war.
Apparently you lack the intelligence to grasp my point. I'll say it slower and easier since you're a Southerner:
Waving the flag doesn't mean you hate blacks, but it does mean you are calling attention to your whiteness.
Grownups can accept that their history has good and bad to it.All I'm offended by is people being offended by it.
That's my heritage and my people.
And if I went by this thread I should be ashamed?
Frankly, I'm offended that you identify with some flag other than the Stars and Stripes. It makes me think maybe you're not totally loyal to this country. Midwesterners don't have their own flag. Blacks don't have their own flag.
So maybe Southerners just aren't as American as the rest of us are. Apparently, since you need your own flag and all. It's just a little bit... separatist. Like that "Aztlan" group in California.
You seem to be a broken record.Just because people want to believe the Union was spiffy clean?
Can you guys not think for one second that the Confederate flag stood for something other than racism?
The Confederate flag does not mean you hate blacks. It does not mean the North was awesome. Ask someone from Boston about the racism there.
It does mean that despite being a native-born American, you identify with a different flag. It does mean that you and your people are so childish and insecure that you cannot deal honestly with the negative aspects of your heritage and instead try to whitewash and rationalize it all away.
Which is one reason places like Arkansas, and Louisiana, and East Texas remain backwards little holes. I mean, other than the fact that they were settled largely by the descendants of the genetically stupid English criminals and debtors who got sent to Georgia (and yet Georgia itself is moving ahead!). It's hard to move forward when you always stay tethered to 1865. Cut the goddamn string. America has done plenty of other bad things in its history, too.
Or, they just accept you as the cracka-ass-cracka that you are and deal with it. (That was a joke.)I sport the rebel flag in the GHETTO. I live in North Little Rock! If you've been to central Arkansas you know we have a big population of blacks! And you wanna know how many problems I've had with the flag? ZERO. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T OFFEND THEM. , I even rode to school each morning in my rebel window shaded truck and picked up my friend who was black and his buddy! Were they offended? Nope.
Was anyone at my school offended? Uh, nope. Was my truck ever vandalized or was I ever talked to about it? No. Why? Because people in the South know the truth. They know the bull Yank's and people throw around just to throw blame.
Ooh, you Arkansasans, you really tricked everyone with that sneaky flag!
Notice a trend?
Do people complain about this? Ohhhh nooooo because this one is okay it don't "mean" anything.
Give me a break. Enough ing said.
The Further we get away from slavery and the civil war...the more "offended" people are by the symbols.
Silliness...by people too bored to be interesting.
Oh, forgot to mention I got the American flag up in my room. ALONE.
Need pics?
Stop trying to add "proud white" to everything to do with the CF. And I sounded like a broken record. Okay.
LOL @ CF
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People trying to make the confederate battle flag (or navy jack) what it isnt 140 years later really amuse me.
No one uses the flag of the failed confederacy anymore, they use the battle flag to represent the SOUTH. It doesnt represent the south before the war, It just represents the SOUTH. I'm sorry that some people feel that a symbol that has become synonymous with the south is a form of hate speech. They manifested that themselves though.
No one minds the fact that in the stars and stripes the stripes represent 13 colonies that all accepted slavery.
People really need to get a grip.
Slavery ended 140 years ago in this country. No one agrees with it now. No one is going to re-enslave anyone.
I'm sick of whiny crying little pussies making something out of nothing.
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