Fired Zachry Employee Commits Suicide

[FromWayDowntown]

FWD, am I correct in thinking he might have had a slander civil suit on Guajardo?

I would think that the basic elements are there; but proving that case would, I think, prove very difficult.

[JoeChalupa]

.....nah.....too easy.

[Useruser666]

Who wants to go to the next city council meeting?

[Yonivore]

Who wants to go to the next city council meeting?

Only if "Deep Throat" is going to be there.

[Nbadan]

I would think that the basic elements are there; but proving that case would, I think, prove very difficult.

Not to mention it would probably get really nasty and the family would be dragged through the mud by the defense. In the end, I don't think a jury would find her negligent for thinking she was doing the right thing. After all, it wasn't her who went screaming to the Express-News about the e-mail.

[Peter]

Not to mention it would probably get really nasty and the family would be dragged through the mud by the defense. In the end, I don't think a jury would find her negligent for thinking she was doing the right thing. After all, it wasn't her who went screaming to the Express-News about the e-mail.

Then who did?

[Nbadan]

Then who did?

Good question. I don't think it was anyone at Zachry. You know, an E-mail like this probably would have circulated through-out City Hall, although no one will probably admit it publicly, so the leak could have been from any of a number of souces downtown.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Vashner thinks that "leakers" should be shot, or at least he does regarding the NSA spying program.

[clubalien]

Maybe he was in debt so needed to fake a suiicde to get life insurance?
remeber you can claim life insurance usally after 1 year of having policy. For some reason they belvie if you don't commit sucided within one year you are less likely.

another theory is this council women was looking to run for major and someone didn't want that so set her up. Ie she will never win another election again here. Not even those "poor mexicans" want whites killed because he wanted to be tough on crime.

corruption in san antonio city poltics? no way that would never happen. oh wait feds were called in for currpotion just a while back!!!

Glad to live in Schertz city limits.

Guajardo is directly quoted in that E-N story, erson declined comment. Both on Wednesday.

I don't think Guajardo called the press. What did she have to gain by it? Even if the worst could be thought (saying she did it to score points with her minority cons uency), it would certainly alienate those who felt the same way about GCS and those who feel now that her actions of reporting instead of counciling her cons uent were wrong.

I doubt Zachry would. Why make public (especially since it was the second time in a year) that an employee was fired for personal use of company property?

erson (or someone around him) would have the most to gain from a groundswell of public support for those who felt the same way he did about GCS, but if he declined comment, he probably didn't contact them to do that. Adding to that, he theoretically might have had a slander suit against Guajardo.

My best guess, an inside source of the reporter's at either Zachry or the city.

[SpursWoman]

I'm pretty sure he didn't fake his brains all over his backyard.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Maybe he was in debt so needed to fake a suiicde to get life insurance?
remeber you can claim life insurance usally after 1 year of having policy. For some reason they belvie if you don't commit sucided within one year you are less likely.

another theory is this council women was looking to run for major and someone didn't want that so set her up. Ie she will never win another election again here. Not even those "poor mexicans" want whites killed because he wanted to be tough on crime.

corruption in san antonio city poltics? no way that would never happen. oh wait feds were called in for currpotion just a while back!!!

Glad to live in Schertz city limits.

What the did you just say?

[exstatic]

Suicides don't collect insurance, either.

[Spam]

Suicides don't collect insurance, either.

Is that because they're not around to collect?

[Yonivore]

Suicides don't collect insurance, either.

Sure they do...you just have to buy the right policy and live out the waiting period.

My policy pays regardless of the cause of death, including suicide. Pays double for accidental and homicide.

Is that because they're not around to collect?

They're called beneficiaries.

[ElMuerto]

Yonivore doesn't understand dead humor then again he doesn't understand much.

[Nbadan]

It's no secret that the Express-News has 'spies' downtown. The media was bound to hear of this story one way or the other, but the Express-News made the choice to run with it, then again, I can't say that KSAT, KENS, and especially not OAI wouldn't have done the same. As I explained in the club thread regarding this topic, when you e-mail someone from your company e-mail address, the assumption is is that your representing the company, and I'm sure these were not views shared by the business owners of HB Zachry. They had every right to know. Was firing this guy over company e-mail abuse fair? That's for an arbitrator to decide. More than likely the company was just waiting for this to blow over and he would have been quietly brought back into the fold anyway.

[PM5K]

when you e-mail someone from your company e-mail address, the assumption is is that your representing the company,

I don't agree with that at all. Maybe initially you'd think the email represents the company or it's opinion, but by reading the contents it's obvious the opinion expressed is that of a private individual and not the company.

Did they have a right to know, who really cares? It wasn't the Councilwomans responsibility to tell them, her responsibility is to that of her cons uents and to address the concerns brought up by them.

Her job is not to arbitrarily address only those concerns which are expressed to her in a manner that she deems acceptable and to ignore those that aren't, especially in a situation like this where there isn't anything aggregiously offensive.

[xrayzebra]

I don't agree with that at all. Maybe initially you'd think the email represents the company or it's opinion, but by reading the contents it's obvious the opinion expressed is that of a private individual and not the company.

Did they have a right to know, who really cares? It wasn't the Councilwomans responsibility to tell them, her responsibility is to that of her cons uents and to address the concerns brought up by them.

Her job is not to arbitrarily address only those concerns which are expressed to her in a manner that she deems acceptable and to ignore those that aren't, especially in a situation like this where there isn't anything aggregiously offensive.

And get re-elected. Which she more than likely had in mind when she
wanted to show someone is a racist by exposing them to ridicule for
talking about bad elements, now everyone knows only minorities have
bad elements, don't they?

[xrayzebra]

and people don't think unions are important.............a union, in this case, would have saved his job, and his life.

Oh I don't think so. He was an engineer, a professional, which don't
belong to unions. And besides technically he did violate company policy
by using company property for private use. The computer.

[SpursWoman]

Oh I don't think so. He was an engineer, a professional, which don't
belong to unions. And besides technically he did violate company policy
by using company property for private use. The computer.

No, but from what I've heard from United Airlines unions anyway...you pretty much have to murder someone on the job to get fired.

[Nbadan]

No, but from what I've heard from United Airlines unions anyway...you pretty much have to murder someone on the job to get fired.

Eh, in Texas you can be fired for no reason at all. Which is better?

[DarkReign]

Oh I don't think so. He was an engineer, a professional, which don't
belong to unions. And besides technically he did violate company policy
by using company property for private use. The computer.

Ummm, yes, white collar jobs can be (and are) unionized.

Good for employees, very bad for employers. All perspective.

[SpursWoman]

Eh, in Texas you can be fired for no reason at all. Which is better?

Definitely perspective. I don't know that I would like being forced to constantly deal with an employee that couldn't/won't pull their weight or just not bright enough for the job. It's bad for the morale of those around him and a complete waste of money...as I'm probably paying him too much to begin with. As an employee, it would pretty much suck not being able to -off on the job as much and have it basically guaranteed regardless.

[Peter]

The more I think about this story the more I think the councilwoman was out of her ing mind.

[SpursWoman]

The more I think about this story the more I think the councilwoman was out of her ing mind.

Me, too. And it's very upsetting.