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    The fact that Nazr gets a lot more offensive boards than defensive boards turns all basketball patterns upside down. With all other players it's the opposite--so what makes for this unusual statistic?

    Nazr doesn't block out on defense or he'd be getting more defensive rebounds.

    On offense he camps down in the low post and just picks off TDs misses. It's amazing he doesn't get more 3 second calls. Then he doesn't help with the outside screen at the top of the key, probably because he doesn't have the hands to handle a pass on the roll.

    He's okay for what he does on offense, but you can't overlook the fact that he should play both ends of the court.

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    According to TimVP, Nazr should see very little playing time tomorrow.
    huh? Timvp hasn't posted.

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    The bottomline is that Nazr seems to have even regressed since last season's playoffs (defensively and intelligence). Every single game, he is getting yelled at by his teammates that he's in the wrong place .. and not just on defense. Two games ago, he was supposed to be setting a pick and he accidental picked Bruce instead of one of the Nets Repeatedly there are iso's for Manu or Tony at the top of the key and Nazr is blocking the middle of the lane where they are supposed to go to get to the rack Manu, Tony, Bruce, Horry, Duncan, and everyone else are constantly waving their arms trying to move him to the proper place on the floor on both O and D.

    I admire his ability to hit the offensive glass. I think he had a couple good games that were vital in last seasons postseason. But he really needs to catch on to the basics. I'm not even expecting that much.

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    huh? Timvp hasn't posted.

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    huh? Timvp hasn't posted.
    You've never heard Timvp's "Malik treatment" theory?

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    More important: Tim, Manu, Tony, Bruce, Horry, and Brent.

    Brent Barry didn't do jack in the playoffs last year.

    Take his name off the list for the love of christ.

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    You've never heard Timvp's "Malik treatment" theory?
    When Nazr plays less than 10 minutes tomorrow, I'll be sure to bump that thread.

    Thanks for reminding me.

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    Brent Barry didn't do jack in the playoffs last year.

    Take his name off the list for the love of christ.

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    Im on Nazr's ass this year.

    But his play VS Denver, PHoenix, some of Detroit and some of Seattle, was beyond outstanding.


    His game 5 performance vs Seattle after two butt ed games in Seattle was CLUTCH.


    Brent Barry made a couple shots in game 1 against Phoenix, other than that, he gave as much to the playoff run as Tony Massenburgh.

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    didn't he do well in game 5 and game 7 of the finals??

    i could be wrong but wasn't he a of a lot more aggressive than normal?

    i might be wrong

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    BTW, Nazr has been a starter in this league for awhile.
    Nazr only has 181 career starts in 8 1/2 seasons!! He started for Atlanta in 2001-2002, but then only started 1 game for them the follwing 2 seasons combined and they traded him. He started in NY but them guess what- they traded him, too. Actually, he's been traded 4 times in 8 years. Wonder why?? Oh, and he hasn't started a game all season.

    On the other hand, Rasho has 453 starts. In the past 5 seasons, Rasho has started every regular season game he has played in exept one.

    As for the playoffs, everyone knows Rasho's ankle wasn't 100% until Phoenix, and attemting to re-insert an out of game shape 7 footer against a running team like Phoenix makes no sense. We all know-- without the injury to Rasho, Nazr doesn't even get the chance to play in the playoffs. Like even now, without the injury to Horry, Nazr would still be sitting on the bench playing mostly when there is foul trouble or garbage time.

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    Nazr only has 181 career starts in 8 1/2 seasons!! He started for Atlanta in 2001-2002, but then only started 1 game for them the follwing 2 seasons combined and they traded him. He started in NY but them guess what- they traded him, too. Actually, he's been traded 4 times in 8 years. Wonder why?? Oh, and he hasn't started a game all season.

    On the other hand, Rasho has 453 starts. In the past 5 seasons, Rasho has started every regular season game he has played in exept one.

    As for the playoffs, everyone knows Rasho's ankle wasn't 100% until Phoenix, and attemting to re-insert an out of game shape 7 footer against a running team like Phoenix makes no sense. We all know-- without the injury to Rasho, Nazr doesn't even get the chance to play in the playoffs. Like even now, without the injury to Horry, Nazr would still be sitting on the bench playing mostly when there is foul trouble or garbage time.
    the last few years Nazr has been a starter, that's what I mean for awhile. Early in his career he was back and forth from the NBA and CBA.

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    When Nazr plays less than 10 minutes tomorrow, I'll be sure to bump that thread.
    No. When Rasho plays a bunch of minutes against Ilgauskus tomorrow, it will be apparent why.

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    Nazr only has 181 career starts in 8 1/2 seasons!! He started for Atlanta in 2001-2002, but then only started 1 game for them the follwing 2 seasons combined and they traded him. He started in NY but them guess what- they traded him, too. Actually, he's been traded 4 times in 8 years. Wonder why?? Oh, and he hasn't started a game all season.

    On the other hand, Rasho has 453 starts. In the past 5 seasons, Rasho has started every regular season game he has played in exept one.

    As for the playoffs, everyone knows Rasho's ankle wasn't 100% until Phoenix, and attemting to re-insert an out of game shape 7 footer against a running team like Phoenix makes no sense. We all know-- without the injury to Rasho, Nazr doesn't even get the chance to play in the playoffs. Like even now, without the injury to Horry, Nazr would still be sitting on the bench playing mostly when there is foul trouble or garbage time.
    and we all know with rasho in the starting lineup we WOULD NOT HAVE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP LAST YEAR. that's just a fact. his rebounding made all the difference which is why he should always be placed ahead of rasho. i dont care that he misses rotations. yes defense is very important but i'm willing to give up a slight amount of our D to greatly improve our rebounding. without nazr's rebounding we would've lost today's game. simple as that. and yes i'm aware of your "nazr -21" or whatever stat.

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    No. When Rasho plays a bunch of minutes against Ilgauskus tomorrow, it will be apparent why.
    the only reason he'll be playing a bunch of minutes is b/c hopefully the spurs will have such a huge lead that the 2nd half will all be garbage time.

    nazr >>>>>>>>> rasho

    end of discussion

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    the last few years Nazr has been a starter, that's what I mean for awhile. Early in his career he was back and forth from the NBA and CBA.
    One season in NY- that's it. 83 starts in the past 3 1/2 years.

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    the only reason he'll be playing a bunch of minutes is b/c hopefully the spurs will have such a huge lead that the 2nd half will all be garbage time
    whats the explanation genius for the games Rasho has finished that were tight??

    STFU already for christ sakes.

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    nazr >>>>>>>>> rasho

    end of discussion
    Well, Pop apparently doesn't agree.

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    whats the explanation genius for the games Rasho has finished that were tight??

    STFU already for christ sakes.
    poor subs utions by Pop

    which aren't anything new

    and yes he's a great coach but some of his subs ution decisions leave a lot to be desired and i'm sure a lot of us can agree with that

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    Well, Pop apparently doesn't agree.
    and that's the problem

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    No. When Rasho plays a bunch of minutes against Ilgauskus tomorrow, it will be apparent why.
    Someone finally understands.

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    the last few years Nazr has been a starter, that's what I mean for awhile. Early in his career he was back and forth from the NBA and CBA.
    Really? I don't recall his being in the CBA ever.

    No bio I've seen shows that.

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    whats the explanation genius for the games Rasho has finished that were tight??
    Even before Horry got hurt, Rasho has been playing more and more in crunch time-- Minnesota (twice), New Jersey (twice), Milwaukee, Toronto (twice), Miami, Golden State... All close games that the Spurs won.

    With about 2 minutes to go today, Pop pulled Nazr and sent in Horry.

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    Someone finally understands.
    Do you mean that seriously or sarcastically. I don't know.

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    Do you mean that seriously or sarcastically. I don't know.
    I'm serious.

    I've always thought that Rasho was a huge key in the Spurs defense, and it showed today when the Pacers made their run, with Nazr and Timmy giving up lay-up after lay-up.

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