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lets go tdfan2007, i know you're trying to come up with something
peter and chump KNOW their
lets go tdfan2007, i know you're trying to come up with something
The scary thing for the league is that TP is good enough now to carry the team while TD can recuperate during the regular season. Otherwise we are to believe that TD's legs have suddenly calcified at age 29.
calacified knees or no calcified knees, duncan should drop 25 every night
Who said we need to do that? I'm just saying that the franchise player should be attempting more than 13 shots per game. I'm not saying that I want Tim to pull a Kobe, but he needs to get more involved offensively. This team might be able to beat teams like Golden State when Tim scores 9 points but they simply can't beat teams like Dallas and Detriot if Tim struggles offensively or isn't involved enough in the offense.oh ok
hey here's a good idea, this should appease the tdfan2007's and v2freak's of the world
lets completely RAG OUT tim duncan
get him to score 25 and 12 every night
dont get any of the other team that we pay millioins of dollars to involved
that should make for 0 more championships and 1-2 more years for duncans career
i swear the people who call out duncan can boggle my mind with their reasoning
Oh, and just so you know, here are Tim's playoff averages in the Spur's le years:
99: 23.2 ppg 11.5 rpg 2.8 apg
03: 24.7 ppg 15.4 rpg 5.3 apg
05: 23.6 ppg 12.4 rpg 2.7 apg
Tim needs to play well for the Spurs to win.
i dont really need the averages... i saw those playoff runs....
True, Tim needs to play well for the Spurs to win... so does manu, tony, horry, BRUCE
i just think it's funny how bent out of shape some get when Duncan doesnt score double digits
Should duncan be jacking up 13 + attempts per game if they arent falling for him and they ARE falling for someone else?
I consider us lucky to have a franchise player that doesnt need to jack up shots to be effective. Do you really want him to force it and push it night in and night out?? there wouldnt be any duncan left for the playoffs
Um, we just beat Dallas with Tim shooting 36%.This team might be able to beat teams like Golden State when Tim scores 9 points but they simply can't beat teams like Dallas and Detriot if Tim struggles offensively or isn't involved enough in the offense.
And I don't see how Tim has ever been less involved in the offense. Even when he moves like Mark Eaton he draws double teams, and the Spurs know it.
exactly
involvement in the offense isnt limited to scoring points
Again, the Spurs have the 2nd best record in the league with others carrying a greater share of the load. If opponents want to start leaving Duncan to concentrate on shutting down TP, let them. We'll see how much longer people will be woofing about how Duncan's game has declined.
I agree. If people want to guard Tim one on one and stop TP, let them. Tim simply can't be stopped 1on1, even in his beleaguered state.
Timmy got out worked by Brand and the refs.
Tim played well in the time out there.
You can tell hes feeling better.
Elton Brand is a stud.
No shame in getting worked by an allstar.
Brand > Dirk
No question......
Some people might read this and think of me as an ignoramus, but oh well this is my opinion so please respect it; here goes:
I understand Tim Duncan's scoring is down, as well as other stats of his. Because of this there's been so much talk about how Duncan's not the same player or that his level's going down or whatever because of his injury...
Well I don't know what the fuzz is about. TO ME, Tim Duncan looks fine, he seems to play the same way as he always has WITH THE EXCEPTION that the Spurs' offense finally doesn't require him to take 20 shots a night. He's not shooting it enough to get his points, he passes it, doesn't get one on one chances to dominate. The times that i see him go to the basket, he looks fine. I don't see him playing any differently other than not taking as many shots as he used to. The Spurs are winning this way so he doesn't really see any reason to change his game and take less shots for the benefit of the team. But trust me, if he saw that something's going on, he'll ask for the ball and you'll see the "old" Timmy back, that's the one that averages over 20 and 10 rebounds a game. But what do we really want, 25-15-5 Timmy, or a Spurs championship... I think it's possible that we might win it either way, but if it ain't broke, why fix it?
The Spurs look good, Tim Duncan looks good, I think people should talk more about Manu for now... I think he's starting to regain his explosiveness.
Are you talking about last two games?
Btw. There is a thread about Tim and this same subject.
Tim Duncan is looking faster, hes moving better, and hes jumping a tad better.
Now tonight, he might not do that great, a very short time in between games.
But Duncan does look better, he moved pretty well last night, its just
Parker is better, Ginobili is better, Finley adds more touches, Barry, Mohammed.
It goes on and on, theres only one basketball, and Duncan has sacraficed shots.
The playoffs though, will be another story, if they don't immediately force the ball out of his hands, ala Phoenix last night.
i agree zocool
talk to tdfan2007 and the rest of his duncandoom&gloom posse
Tim has not been as good and fast about challenging drivers, coming across the paint, rotating. Spurs lost the paint again last night, seriously. That almost never happened last season. I put that down to his PF.
Nazr is the one who drives me crazy with the slowness of his rotations, when they even happen, and his backpedalling down the lane with a driver, rather that taking his position soon enough to alter the driver's path or take a charge. Rasho is so much better at defending the paint. One of Nazr's great gifts are his long arms, but I'm always screaming at him to get his hands up, get in somebody's face.
Last edited by boutons_; 03-10-2006 at 05:42 PM.
Duncan is much worse in back to backs, clearly his pf is bothering him more when he doesn't get rest.
Playoffs will offer plenty of rest, he will be fine.
You should recognize that his shooting percentage since the allstar break has been worse than his average, hence his lower scoring as well.
Duncans defensive rotations are not as quick as previous years and he is getting scored on in a lot of 1 on 1 situations. Plus, it seems like everyone has been blocking his shot.
But, he's moving better and better lately. I heard something about him getting new shoes. Having foot problems myself...it's amazing how much different shoes can affect you.
Tim may be able to step it up in the playoffs...but, I see us winning like we have all year. From a lot of different sources... on different nights.
Tim's defense has gotten worse, his field goal percentage is beyond horrible for a big man, and he's been horrible on the 2nd game of back to backs. Is that enough proof that his PF is bothering him?
He's definately not "fine".
He's still damn good, but you can see on his finishes around the rim. The leg/lift just isn't there.
#1. You'll quickly find that the one certainty about this forum is that you can't ask people to "respect" your opinion, because that will just bring their startin spark to a full ing flaming roar, even if they agree with you because they have nothing better to do.
#2. You're exactly right. Sure he gets sore and the facitis gets tender on the 2nd night of back-2-backs. But he does what he has to to ensure a win. Proof? 48-13
Duncan is one of my favorite players but i'm tired of seeing him playing so unmotivated everygame.
i think the Spurs need to do something about that situation if it's not solved then let's try trading him.
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