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  1. #101
    Garnett > Duncan sickdsm's Avatar
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    Weren't you the one calling people idiots for saying that Flip was overated FreshPrince22?

    If they win it will be despite having him as a coach, not bc of it.

    I think you need to some big time kissing up. The only one on this board who has changed stances faster was TPark in a series clinching moment.

  2. #102
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    Weren't you the one calling people idiots for saying that Flip was overated FreshPrince22?

    If they win it will be despite having him as a coach, not bc of it.

    I think you need to some big time kissing up. The only one on this board who has changed stances faster was TPark in a series clinching moment.
    All I said is I would give him the benefit of the doubt untill he proved me wrong. I wasn't gonna bash the guy for not doing well in the post-season with a team that now can't even sniff the playoffs without him. He's getting his chance.... If he blows it. He blows it. Period.

  3. #103
    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    hahaha, just bustin balls dude

  4. #104
    Garnett > Duncan sickdsm's Avatar
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    That's all you said?


    You mean all this back and forth ing between everyone and you/other piston fans was because you merely said to give him the benefit of the doubt?



    , Flip's team is still alive in the playoffs and you turn tail like a little on your words a few months ago.

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    That's all you said?


    You mean all this back and forth ing between everyone and you/other piston fans was because you merely said to give him the benefit of the doubt?



    , Flip's team is still alive in the playoffs and you turn tail like a little on your words a few months ago.
    Still alive... Maybe it's just the Pistons doing their normal routine afterall. They've won a game 7 in each of the last 3 years.

    Good luck in the draft lottery, BTW...

  6. #106
    Garnett > Duncan sickdsm's Avatar
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    I'm not quite sure, is that supposed to be a dig at me?

    Your team>>>> my team


    My basketball knowledge>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all piston es on here combined.

    Nice offense last night flip.

  7. #107
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    I'm not quite sure, is that supposed to be a dig at me?

    Your team>>>> my team


    My basketball knowledge>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all piston es on here combined.

    Nice offense last night flip.
    head 1: My is bigger than yours!
    head 2: No, mine is bigger than yours!
    head 1: Wrong again, mine is!
    head 2: No, mine!
    head 1: Mine!
    ...
    ...
    ...

    Hows fishing going?

  8. #108
    Garnett > Duncan sickdsm's Avatar
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    Giving me time enough to do my homework to put you in your place next year.................Again.



    Let me know when your willing for me to teach you basketball 101.



    Admitting your wrong takes a man, so far NO piston fan has said "I was completly wrong about Flip" They just take the route of sidestepping what they said/thought in the past.


    This is Detroits last year with a shot at winning it, barring a noteworthy trade under this regime.

    Better enjoy it. Been there, done that. Two years ahead of you .

  9. #109
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    Flip definitely has some deficiencies as a playoff coach. And, he's very stubborn. Sure, he appears to be a regular season coach.

    But, I'll go back to what I said months ago, great players make a coach look great. Bad players makes a coach look bad.

    While a great coach might be a difference, that's more the exception than the rule. Ultimately, success is on the players.

    Getting rid of Flip Saunders seemed to do wonders for the Minnesota Timberwolves, right?

  10. #110
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    Neither Kevin McHale nor Dwane Casey are upgrades over Flip, though.

    While personnel obviously matters, a great coach always makes a difference for a great team.

    I was wrong about Flip. Not completely wrong, but wrong nonetheless.

  11. #111
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    Sigh, Don't make me lecture you when school's out Piston fan. I don't get paid for it then.


    Flip's team got blown up. How good would Flip have done with Yaric, huddy and Justin Reed? Who's to know. But we DO know that Flip's team have consistantly done one of two things.


    1. Overachieved during the regular season

    OR

    2. Underachieved during the postseason.


    We can point to WCF run all you'd like but the truth be told when you have a better team the following year, and its blown up by ego's, that's 100 percent on the coach. THat's not even debateable.


    The Pistons will have to go 8-0 from here on out to match what they were doing during the regular season, anything less than that and its an underachievement. You mean to tell me that a team that has every one (except the only er that knows flip) talking 70 plus wins can be the same team staving off two elimination games from LeBron and trash?



    Pistons are struggling BC of Flip. I said it preseason and all the national ass-kissers are now tearing Flip's coaching apart, let alone some closer to Detroit.


    Flip was touted as a great coach before the pistons inked him, don't try to hide from that. I saw through all his bull years ago. He was touted as a great coach bc of KG.


    Quick quiz:

    What's Flip known for most?


    His offense

    What is/has always been KG's weak point?


    His offense

    What position player is Flip supposed to help the most?

    PG

    What top five MVP candidate has not overplayed as well as the others in the playoffs?


    Billups, starting PG


    What strategy did Flip utilize the year his backup PG was hurt the full season during MN WCF run?

    Pray to God an injury won't happan and wear the out of his starting PG.

    Ultimately what strategy did his great NBA PG mind utilize during said injury?

    Let your PF bring the rock up and hand it to your shooting guard and set up your offense with 12 seconds left on the clock.

  12. #112
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    Neither Kevin McHale nor Dwane Casey are upgrades over Flip, though.

    While personnel obviously matters, a great coach always makes a difference for a great team.

    I was wrong about Flip. Not completely wrong, but wrong nonetheless.


    I do think Casey is an upgrade long term.


    McHale is/always has been just as much of the problem though as Flip.


    I admire you admitting your wrong but i don't know you from adam so i'll preach until JamStone, Fresh Prince, JocceJame? or a couple others i know admit.

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    I just want to see how this strategy of "countering" hack-a-Ben with hack-a-Shaq works out, if both teams go to it. If I'm Miami I'd try to sucker Detroit into doing it, as right now Shaq is a significantly better freethrow shooter than Ben, (I didn't think I'd ever be able to say that about Shaq ) so if the numbers hold up Miami would just be making up a bunch of points pretty quickly.

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