Artest to be suspended for Game #2

[Horry For 3!]

That has to suck for him and the Kings.

[pache100]

I can't believe who are in shock about Artest getting suspended. This guy deserves it. He has been in a lot of problems before this.

I'm NOT in shock. I don't agree with it. Two different things. I happen to disagree that he deserves it. His past problems should not enter in here. Punishment should be based on the act itself, not history. If he should have been suspended before, they should have done it then. This infraction would not have been suspendable FOR ANYONE ELSE. I don't know how to make that any plainer. Next, if we're gonna punish a guy for everything he's ever done wrong in his life over a simple infraction, we'll be punishing people for what we are afraid they MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE. Slippery slope.

[mavsfan1000]

you David Stern. ing short leash .

[Horry For 3!]

I feel no pity for him being suspended though. I hate him and he was pissing me off with all the dirty moves he was making during the game.

[polandprzem]

So what if the elbow to Manu's face or head would have caused Manu to miss the rest of Round 1? You would want Ron Artest suspended right? What good would that do? Manu would be out of Round 1 and Ron would get a suspension. You have to do all you can to prevent from such things happening.

So play volleyball or the leauge should suspend most of the players and leave few soft and nice guys and if then something happen ?????????? Suspend the leauge to prevent that kind of situacions?

[SenorSpur]

I don't get it.

Why the past has to have something incommon to that situation? When you are suspending you suspend for the thing someone did now not then.

C'mon dude. Past history has everything to do with how fines, suspensions and sentences are levied.

[NoMoneyDown]

I'm NOT in shock. I don't agree with it. Two different things. I happen to disagree that he deserves it. His past problems should not enter in here. Punishment should be based on the act itself, not history. If he should have been suspended before, they should have done it then. This infraction would not have been suspendable FOR ANYONE ELSE. I don't know how to make that any plainer. Next, if we're gonna punish a guy for everything he's ever done wrong in his life over a simple infraction, we'll be punishing people for what we are afraid they MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE. Slippery slope.

Then I guess criminals should be prosecuted on the charges at hand with absolutely no regard to their historic behaviour/actions.

[pache100]

So what if the elbow to Manu's face or head would have caused Manu to miss the rest of Round 1? You would want Ron Artest suspended right? What good would that do? Manu would be out of Round 1 and Ron would get a suspension. You have to do all you can to prevent from such things happening.

That's exactly what I was talking about, punishing people for something they might do in the future...or what might have happened. If we go there, we're in big trouble.

[travis2]

On the bright side...

You gotta believe that psycho mod in Sacramento is probably popping nitroglycerine pills like candy right about now...

[Trainwreck2100]

How did you find that

[boutons_]

"His past problems should not enter in here"

WTF? He was on effective probation for his past crimes.
He committed yet another ejectable/FF2 offense, an arm shot above the shoulders.

[Roscoe and the Body]

You're no better and make no more sense than that woman who wrote that stupid article in the SacBee. Why do you have to wish injury on someone else to make a point? I'll tell you what it does for me...it invalidates anything else you might say that could make sense.

I'm not wishing injury, I'm asking Ron Artest to enroll in the Bruce Bowen school of cheapshots is all, just to make my point. I don't wish injury on anybodythis time of year, because the Pistons are long overdue(Rip Hamilton did sprain his ankle in game one vs the Bucks already and is listed as day-to-day).

Artest is a nutter. I was extremely happy when he was traded out of the East. You just never know with the kid, and with all the heat and drama with him and the Pistons you always thought it was not a question of if but when.

[pache100]

Then I guess criminals should be prosecuted on the charges at hand with absolutely no regard to their historic behaviour/actions.

Gee, I didn't realize Ron was on trial in court. I thought we were still talking about the NBA.

But, as a matter of fact, unless it has some bearing on the current case, information regarding prior crimes is almost always ruled out as evidence in court.

[NASpurs]

Look at that . He extended his elbow and arm out instead of keeping it still at least. He saw Manu coming and boom

[MoSpur]

I'm NOT in shock. I don't agree with it. Two different things. I happen to disagree that he deserves it. His past problems should not enter in here. Punishment should be based on the act itself, not history. If he should have been suspended before, they should have done it then. This infraction would not have been suspendable FOR ANYONE ELSE. I don't know how to make that any plainer. Next, if we're gonna punish a guy for everything he's ever done wrong in his life over a simple infraction, we'll be punishing people for what we are afraid they MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE. Slippery slope.

So someone who drives drunk should be given chance after chance until he/she actually wrecks into some family and takes them all out before he is actually punished?

[polandprzem]

C'mon dude. Past history has everything to do with how fines, suspensions and sentences are levied.

That's why I'm getting banned even if I'm not doing anything wrong( on other forums)

[SenorSpur]

I'm NOT in shock. I don't agree with it. Two different things. I happen to disagree that he deserves it. His past problems should not enter in here. Punishment should be based on the act itself, not history. If he should have been suspended before, they should have done it then. This infraction would not have been suspendable FOR ANYONE ELSE. I don't know how to make that any plainer. Next, if we're gonna punish a guy for everything he's ever done wrong in his life over a simple infraction, we'll be punishing people for what we are afraid they MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE. Slippery slope.

First of all, Artest is no first time offender to league policy. He's got a history. So if you think it's unfair that his history came into account, then Artest should try to change his history by playing and acting in accordance with league rules. If he were to do this, perhaps the negative history would go away.

Second, I can't believe any Spurs fans would feel sorry for this guy. Were you feeling sorry for Tim and Manu when he deliberately elbowed them in the head? What if one of both of those guys sustained some sort of injury as a result of Artest's blow? What would have been your reaction then?

Finally, Artest is like a lot of athletes and/or celebrities. They fail to take responsibility for their actions. Nothing they do is ever their fault. It's always someone else's fault.

On the bright side, Ron can use the time off to further promote his rap label "True Warier"

[byrontx]

With Sac sportswriters advocating hurting Spurs players and Artest's history, the NBA is clamping down. The message, to everyone in the NBA, is that excessive violence will not be tolerated.

Artest is a liability. Just trouble waiting to happen.

[Horry For 3!]

One poster was like you can't even tell he did it on purpose...uhh I guess they don't know the antics that Artest does to try to get away with. He elbows Manu then looks away like nothing happened.

[101A]

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[smdanss]

I think this is a clear notice to those want to play rugh. Physical is ok, but don't try to hurt or intentionly hurt back to other players. Just play hard for the game only.

[MoSpur]

Was Tim also being pushed into Ron Artest at the same time Ron gave the elbow?

[101A]

Motive? Yes.
Opportunity? Yes.
Action? Yes.
Evidence? Yes.

Guilty.

[IceColdBrewski]

Now THAT is a cool Kings forum. The circle-jerkers at kingsfan.com (or whatever the it is) would be better off escaping the psyco dictatorship, and becoming a member there.

[Trainwreck2100]

dammit that's my vid cap, take it off right now, cause we are not supposed to link that stuff here