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    there is no spur player to stop wells or artest they r too good for the spurs the only good player in the spurs is horry.

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    Tim will guard Bonzi next game, Rasho on Miller...

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    What pisses me off is Pop went to Horry on Wells for a stretch in the second quarter ... and then we never saw it again. With Horry on Wells, Wells went out of the paint and camped in the corner. He didn't get any offensive rebounds. He didn't muscle around a smaller Spurs player in the paint. He didn't do anything.

    Then Pop takes out Horry to play "small ball" and the freaking dam explodes in his face and the Spurs are down a dozen at halftime. WTF is Pop thinking? The Spurs were actually ahead with Horry guarding Wells.

    Then Pop decided to put Brent Barry at power forward
    This is the answer. The Spurs need to sit Bowen on his ass as he provides nothing against the Kings. I don't know if Horry can handle the minutes, but you need him in there for the majority of the game.

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    Tim will guard Bonzi next game, Rasho on Miller...
    That's a better idea than what is happening now. Tim could guard Bonzi better than anyone on the team outside of Horry.

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    Horry would be a nice solution for Wells. But only for a short period of time. Simply for the fact that Horry does not have the legs and the lateral quickness to keep up with Wells. Wells has a very quick first step. And as for as Duncan on Artest. That matchup might cause Duncan to be in early foul trouble. Artest loves to play agressive and drive in the lane.

    I really see no solution but hope Bowen, Manu, and Finley find a solution to guarding them. My problem is that they are letting Wells get the ball to easy and I see no denying the ball defense on him nor Artest. They need to move Wells and make him get the ball where he does not feel comfortable and make him get in awkward positions he is not used to. Also will someone box him out. The guy gets so many offensive rebounds it's unbelievable.

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    What pisses me off is Pop went to Horry on Wells for a stretch in the second quarter ... and then we never saw it again. With Horry on Wells, Wells went out of the paint and camped in the corner. He didn't get any offensive rebounds. He didn't muscle around a smaller Spurs player in the paint. He didn't do anything.

    Then Pop takes out Horry to play "small ball" and the freaking dam explodes in his face and the Spurs are down a dozen at halftime. WTF is Pop thinking? The Spurs were actually ahead with Horry guarding Wells.

    Then Pop decided to put Brent Barry at power forward

    In that time frame I remember Bonzi scoring twice on Horry and blowing pass him for an easy layup. He also grabbed an offense rebound on him. But it was limited and I can't base that on how well he would do on him.

    I do think he needs to stick with Horry or even freaking Fabio at the 4 when they go small. We should be dominating with our bigs and its sad to see this .

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    Pop has been outcoached since game two. Face it. If not for Barry's bounce, the Spurs would be facing elimination. He needs to counter Adelman's lineup. Plain and simple. The Spurs have been predictable as of late. I hate saying things like this because I love this team, but its true.

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    Pop has to read up on Nash's Equilibrium. That might help him. It talks about how he needs to strategize but realizing that the opponent is also strategizing. So Pop needs to strategize and adjust to Adelman's strategy.

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    Adelman is doing a good job on trying to figure out how to expose the Spurs' weaknesses. Pop needs to understand how to counter attack. He did go to the Air Force didn't he?

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    In that time frame I remember Bonzi scoring twice on Horry and blowing pass him for an easy layup. He also grabbed an offense rebound on him.
    That wasn't when Horry was guarding Wells. The play you are thinking about was when Finley was guarding Wells and Horry came over for help but it was too late.

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    Well, I don't think anyone knows what to do about the Kings! They are such a surprise this year, and have lots of hidden talent. Look, the Spurs are getting old and it's showing. No one ever dreamed they (Kings) would win 2 in a row, and almost won the 2nd game. Wells and Artest are out doing everyone POP puts on the floor. Look at the STATS!!!

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    That's a better idea than what is happening now. Tim could guard Bonzi better than anyone on the team outside of Horry.
    It was supposed to happen last night....for whatever reason it didn't.

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    Look, Artest was shooting fine last night, look again. 3 pointer, lots of jump shots, some lay-ins. The dude is crazed! How can anyone play against that?

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    Yeah I don't really get it either. Ferry used to be really effective on Bonzi (even before the spitting incident). So I don't get why he doesn't stick Horry on him. And if Pop doesn't want to have Duncan/Rasho/Horry on the floor at the same time, then do this ..

    Miller guarded by Bowen (Bruce can guard him on the perimeter and front him in the post)
    Artest guarded by Duncan
    Wells guarded by Horry
    Martin guarded by Manu
    Bibby guarded by Tony

    Artest and Wells need to be guarded by guys that are bigger than them.
    I'm not convinced that Horry is fast enough to guard Bonzi and he's never been a physical player anyway. Any thoughts on Oberto taking a shot on Bonzi? At the worst, he's got 6 fouls to give.

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    I agree that the Spurs need to play their bigs against Sacramento.

    Pack the lane and make the Kings beat us from the outside.

    Oberto is a good choice to see some action.

    I'd play Oberto/Rasho, Nazr/Horry and Duncan at the same time and see how Sacramento counters.

    I've lurked the Kings fan forums since they got Artest, and the one thing Sacto fans complain about is how weak their front line is. Instead of playing down to this small-ball Sacto lineup, Pop needs to go big. . .as big as he can and overpower these guys. Bonzi won't get seventeen rebounds on a Nazr/Duncan/Oberto front line or a Rasho/Duncan/Horry front line.

    Let's make Sacto beat us with their jump shooters and deny them the offensive glass.

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    Then Pop takes out Horry to play "small ball" and the freaking dam explodes in his face and the Spurs are down a dozen at halftime. WTF is Pop thinking? The Spurs were actually ahead with Horry guarding Wells.

    Then Pop decided to put Brent Barry at power forward
    What? Criticism of Pop by LJ? Holy crap, the world is ending!

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    BTW, I agree with you LJ. I've been critical of Pop before (understatement, I know) but this small ball when Sacramento is trotting out Bonzi and Artest is one of the all-time stupid coaching moves in Pop's career.

    Sadly he probably won't adjust, we'll lose this series, and he'll trade some guys who 'didn't step up.'

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    The playoffs are about match ups, you hear that all the time and it's true. Pop is playing right into the kings hands by going small when he needs to exploit that advantage by staying big.

    If the kings put bonzi wells at PF, who guards Tim? bonzi wells? If thats the case throw it to Tim every time, look what kwame brown is doing against PHX's small line up and imagine what Tim could do!

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    I got it!

    Lineup:
    PG: Tim Duncan
    SG: Rasho
    SF: Nazr
    PF: Horry
    C: Marks/Oberto

    Game Over.

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    Spurs are treading dangerous ground..

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    why spurs not playing Zone defence once in while

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    Zone defense is exactly what we need to do if we want to lose 4 straight games

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    last games Duncan was playing good they should have given more touches to Duncan

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    we can give duncan all the touches in the world, but if we keep giving up Offensive Rebounds to bonzi ing wells and let Artest get layups, they're a lost cause


    the issue here is defense

    Bonzi and Artest both hit their outside shots last game too. Not looking good.

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