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The offseason is officially here. timvp is pushing out a wacky idea.
Reggie Evans is an interesting thought, but the Spurs #1 priority should be to try to get this guy:
Joel Przybilla, the Fan Thrilla.
Who would have known that trading Malik Rose would have hurt the Spurs this year rather than last year?
The offseason is officially here. timvp is pushing out a wacky idea.
Reggie Evans is an interesting thought, but the Spurs #1 priority should be to try to get this guy:
Joel Przybilla, the Fan Thrilla.
After sleeping on it, I'm liking the idea. The guy isn't close to perfect, but he gives us the guy we need to play small ball when we need to, he's athletic, and he helps plug one of our biggest holes last year, rebounding.
If we could split the midlevel between Evans and someone like Jumaine Jones, sign Javtokas for the LLE, and trade Barry and Scola's rights for some younger backcourt help, the Spurs would pretty much be made over this offseason.
What about Darius Miles?
He signed a 6-year, $48 million contract 2 years ago. 4 years at > $8 million? No thanks.
Another similar player to Evans is Al Harrington. He can rebound almost as well as Reggie and is a musch better shooter as well. He's also an inch taller and probably won't try to rip anyones testicles out.
If Reggie played like he did in 2004-05, I wouldn't mind im as a Spur at all. Rebounding beast. A guy who knows his role, and someone Pop would respect in that sense. He probably wouldn't play him 28mpg in the regular season and then bench him for the playoffs because of matchup issues.....
Yeah, his numbers jumped when he got off that Sonic bench this year.
That worries me a little, because Pop might still start Rasho against a lot of teams. If he can't be effective off the bench, he might not be the guy.
It's nice to see Spurs fans finally admit that Duncan, in reality, is a center.
I'm not sold that Reggie Evans is THE answer, but I think we're at least thinking about the right question.
With the biggest hurdles appearing to now be teams like Dallas, Phoenix, and Detroit, the premium has to be not so much on bulk in the post, but on length and athleticism that can keep multiple bigs on the floor to offset the rebounding problem that was so pronounced during the playoffs.
I still think that the move that's coming is one that has Tim Duncan playing more like a center, with a more athletic PF-type alongside. In the current NBA world, that makes the most sense to me. Whoever that guy is, he doesn't have to be a stellar scorer, so long as he'll rebound and play physically in the paint.
Kori & timvp.... have you all suggested your idea and reasoning to the Spurs' FO???
Would you write an article about Free Agent Possibilities Kori... and throw in LJ's solution?
Based on what I read, it seems like it could work...
Oh and don't count out Nocioni... he has said on many occasions he would love to play with Manu.
Would this mean that Duncan would have to relinquish his claim as the Greatest Power Forward ever...???
He could always play center. But against the big teams with strong paint defenders that used to dominate the playoffs in the past, he's most effective playing PF next to another big guy. Whereas against teams like Dallas, he was usually more effective playing center next to someone like Malik.
The way the game is evolving, Boris Diaw is a center. So it's no great surprise that Duncan is too.
Ultimately, what difference does that make if it makes the team better? Is Timmy's legacy at a position (which is pretty well cemented right now) more important than competing with your biggest threats? (I'm assuming that your complaint is a light-hearted one, or I'd go on with rhetorical questions)
Besides, Timmy will probably always be listed as the PF, even if he plays more like a center.
Another thing that I don't like with the Evans/Duncan is that Evans can't hit a jumpshot.
Miami play too with a dominant center (Shaq) and a garbage player at PF(Haslem), it works so well because Haslem can hit open midrange jumpshots. Teams that double Shaq are punished by Haslem.
With Evans, the opposite team can double Duncan with its two bigs without taking too much risks.
Realistic lineup:
Tony Parker / Beno Udrih/ Brent Barry
Manu Ginobili / Michael Finley/Brent Barry
Bruce Bowen/ Rasual Butler/Brent Barry
Tim Duncan / Reggie Evans/ Robert Horry
Rasho Nesterovic/Robertas Javtokas/ Fabricio Oberto
- Beno Udrih get the back up reigns....if improvement is not seen up until the All-Star Break, and trade for a back up could then be made.
-Brent Barry....although more than likely to be shopped around heavily...nothing really get's done. I think New Orleans goes another way with the JR deal, but I hope not.
-Rasual Butler...he is not restricted, so I hope he would be willing to come play for a Championship and along with TD for half the MLE.
-Reggie Evans....he's and undersized PF, but athletic. Does not have great offense, but his 7'2 wingspan helps with rebounding. Half the MLE
-Robertas Javtokas....a solid big man, who can run the floor and bang down low....rebounds and put back's...is what we can expect at the least....LLE
*Nazr Mohammed.....I think the Spurs will just let him walk. Chicago can pretty much sign him outright, and the only benefit of a sign and trade is that Nazr get's a 6th year, and I don't know if that would be a good idea for Chicago. The Spurs could package him along with Barry, but I would not bank on the package deal.
*Luis Scola...to get him over here would be roughly around a 4 million dollar deal, and that just might be too much to swallow, especially with this team has other needs. We need rebounding and defense....two things Scola has never been known to be outstanding at.....
*I do recognize the fact that we need a good solid pack up PG. Hopefully, with the vet minimum we can snag someone. I just choose to spend the MLE on a SF who plays at both ends of the floor in Butler and can shoot the 3. The other half went to Evans who can help drastically in the rebounding department. The LLE went to Javtokas who can also help with the rebounding and with the departure of Nazr, we would need a back up C when Rasho needed rest or was in foul trouble.
*Lastly, as I stated before....the biggest move this summer is not a player. The biggest move is for the Spurs to make sure they lock up Sam Presti for a couple of years. We can not afford to let this guy go....he is extremely vital to the organization.
If Butler and Evans would split the MLE that wouldn't be a bad summer, but the Spurs still need a back-up PG and, well, I'm nervous because Rod Strickland is the PG vet hanging around.
Just say no to Rod!
They should DO SOMETHING to address this deficiency. I'm tired of seeing them get "punked" on the glass as a team.
In fact, your scenario isn't realistic.
With your Spurs will be something like $5m over the Luxury tax and it's higly unlikely that Peter Holt agrees to spend that.
So, you don't seeing the Spurs using the MLE?
How do you expect the Spurs to improve without going over the tax?
If we trade away, we're still gonna have to recieve contracts that are similar to the ones we send out....
I would tend to agree with some of that -- to an extent, at least -- which is part of the reason I'm not entirely sold on Evans. I could see an argument that teams have dealt successfully with that situation before and that hard doubles by bigs on Tim would open rebounding opportunities for a tenacious board crasher who would be dealing more with wings than with bigs. Of course, I can also see that many teams wouldn't choose to double Tim with 2 bigs, either for that reason or because it would severely complicate their rotations behind the ball.
Reggie Evans is one of a rebounder.
But I can't say that I agree with TiMVP about his mobility. He's not very fast at all for a modern power forward, and definitely isn't athletic enough to keep up with a player like Dirk on the perimeter. His defensive ap ude isn't very good (aside from his flopping whether he has position or not), and I'm certain that he will never be a Ben Wallace type defensive player. A player like Udonis Haslem (or Malik Rose) would probably fill the void in the Spurs' defensive concept for mobile 4s, and I really like the Jumaine Jones and Jared Jeffries suggestion, although they're more of a 2/3.
The Spurs can't offer more than the MLE can they? Przybilla is much better than Evans, but he will require more than the MLE. If he doesn't then we will resign him.
hey timvp .... how about a sign and trade with nazir and tyson chandler .... tyson chandler has the potential to be a great defender, hes extremely mobile, HE IS THE BEST REBOUNDER IN THE NBA PERIOD cuz he is number 1 in rebounds per 48 minutes and hes a lot younger then Reggie Evans ....i dont know whats tysons contract but it must be huge ... no problem there just add brent barry and beno to the mix .. or even robert horry or oberto and we can match his contract get him here to SA and win the next 3 championships..... Oh yeah and Tyson Chandler can block shots ...
what do u guys think of this ?
and someone plz give me details on Tyson Chandler's contract
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