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  1. #101
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    Many. Duncan did not want to leave. Don't be fooled with the Orlando visit with Grant Hill. That was only bargaining postering. I knew he wasn't going to leave.

    That was never going to happen. Duncan still had Robinson and knew he had a great shot at a ile in SA. He was also settled in at SA and liked it.

    Wasn't he also recently married at the time? And isn't his wife from SA? Not sure but those would also be strong reasons to stay in SA.

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    Duncan didn't need to make the trip to get the deal he wanted from the Spurs. It was rather real in 2000.

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    It was real to you. I knew he was not going anywhere.

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    Tony's biggest weakness right now is his slight frame. One of the reasons he had a few down games this postseason was that he was beat up. His slight frame also prevents him from being effective against guarding a lot of the bigger type point guards. Given an extra 10 lbs of muscle, maybe we see a slightly more resilient Tony with a little bit more chops on defense.
    don't want to bulk him up at the expense of any quickness. tony is young and probably still growing and filling out.

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    That's a little misleading, how many shots was Rasho's FG% based on?
    334

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    Tony's jumper is getting better but it doesn't put the fear of god into a team. Will his jumpshot ever be feared? I think it will.

    I just want him to be a Spur when it happens. It won't matter if the Spurs play big or small. They will be unstoppable.

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    Ha you sore loosers our Mavs will give you Darrell Armstrong for Tony Parker and 2 #1 draft picks and 1 million dallors in cash.

    Only if Tim Duncan gets on his knees and begs Mark Cuban.

    Redneck Hooked on Phonics worked for him.

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    Solid comeback. If you just hit your second can of freon.

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    don't want to bulk him up at the expense of any quickness. tony is young and probably still growing and filling out.
    I am not talking about adding a lot of weight to him. And I highly doubt that adding a few more pounds of muscle is going to slow him down. As a matter of fact, having more muscle may allow him to continue to be quick at the end of games.

    Whether Tony can actually add more weight is a whole other story. His metabolism probably runs faster than he does!

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    TP takes a lot of punishment attacking the rim as he does. That's the biggest concern I have for him.

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    yep manu can do no wrong only tp and pop

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    Only Manu and TIM can do no wrong....although this year in 2006, Manu has shown he does have weaknesses while last year we thought otherwise. (Like when Tim's only weakness showed in his Shakey FT/Confidence in 2005)

    TP and Pop are among the same level to be criticized. The only reason why Manu gets off the hook is because it's safe to say along with Tim he ensured a third ring against a very real Championship opposition. Not the Leastern Conference automatic ring foe. And has continued to save the team's asses multiple times.

    TP is young so he's gonna keep hearing it I guess but then less and less. Some of the criticism has been justified in the past. So far it's all on Pop and Tony did what he was told to do.

    Pop is currently considered the best coach or one of the best coaches in the league, but he doesn't always seem like he makes the best decisions (from the convenience 20/20 hindsight--and a non-expert fan perspective) Insistence on his designed game plan or whatever. I admire his class to the utmost, but I remember in 2005 Larry Brown had him read and knew that play to Horry wasn't gonna happen. His remark was something like, "I didn't know they'd be gutsy enough to go for the win, instead of the tie" which he thought he got outplayed by Pop like a chessmatch. Me and my friend thought it was a great play to go for the three. Later on we found out Manu cut the designed play which was for a two because of the trap and quick thinking got him to notice Horry and all his past. So yeah Pop hasn't convinced some of us that he's on a Phil Jackson / Pat Riley legend status yet. The confidence in Pop isn't equal to that kind of confidence in Timmy. He has yet to come over that hump of defending the le and I think coaching has lot to do with that when you got your key players in tact and the other teams are designed to take them down. (Though this year seems a lot more forgiving than the other "repeat" years because that Mavs series just seemed so damned even)

    In the end it doesn't matter if he does or not cuz he's still a unique classy coach.

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    Why would the spurs want to trade parker?

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    Why would the spurs want to trade parker?
    They wouldn't.

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    TP takes a lot of punishment attacking the rim as he does. That's the biggest concern I have for him.
    Exactly my point.

    You can probably attribute some of Tony's "fading" in years past to his slight body not handling the physical nature of playoffs that well.

    Perhaps if he bulked up a tad bit, he could take the bruising a little better.

    He should be nearing his muscular peak in the next year or so anyway.

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    The only other young point guard in the league with potential like parker is chris paul. But this would be a stupid trade for both sides making this a pointless thread.

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    I'd take Chris Paul over Tony Parker anyday

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    i say we trade duncan and ginobili for some old guy

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    i say we trade duncan and ginobili for some old guy
    Hey tell popovich to trade them for Keith Van Horn........lmao

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    Tony is not even 25 and an all star trading him now would be insane, he will be a great player he has gotten better every year and next year will be no different, Spurs did not lose to Dallas because of Tony, Manu just killed them in that series down the stretch of games 3 and 7.

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    Tony is a great REAGULAR season player but come playoffs...

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    Tony is a great REAGULAR season player but come playoffs...
    He averaged 21 points in the playoffs.

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    Manu Ginobili can foul a guy with 20 seconds left in a Game 7 when you're up 3 but it's all TP's fault. When will the madness end?

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    against Dallas he was 20.1 and only went to the line 6 times when he was 3rd in the league in points in the paint

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    against Dallas he was 20.1 and only went to the line 6 times when he was 3rd in the league in points in the paint
    and he had some big games against Dallas too. Parker didnt have a poor playoffs and trading a young all-star is just dumb

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    Manu Ginobili can foul a guy with 20 seconds left in a Game 7 when you're up 3 but it's all TP's fault. When will the madness end?

    Exactly. I love Manu and in no way do I think that he or that foul were the reason we lost to the Mavs. However, if the situation was reversed and Parker had been the one that committed the foul...could you imagine the threads that would have been started then?

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