Tony Parker or Jason Terry?

[Odogg]

Parker has too much soft French in him. I guess that is why he can backpedal so fast and tends to wilt when the game is on the line. Seems like he is too quick to "surrender". LoL! He is lightning quick though and is good in transition and finishing around the rim. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 15 ft though. That is his main weakness and once Tim goes bye bye (Or declines rapidly) so will Parker's game. For ya'll though, he is a better fit for you than Terry. For the soon to be champs Mavs though, Terry is a much better fit for us. Not only can he play point, but he can slide over to SG and be even more effective. (Which is his natural position) He has a much more rounded offensive game, and is physically bigger and stronger. He gives the Mavs great versatility and is the main reason we whooped ya'lls ASS when Avery made the adjustment to move him over. He is 28 and in his prime. Max him Cuban so we can continue to dominate!

[SPARKY]

Parker has too much soft French in him. I guess that is why he can backpedal so fast and tends to wilt when the game is on the line. Seems like he is too quick to "surrender". LoL! He is lightning quick though and is good in transition and finishing around the rim. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 15 ft though. That is his main weakness and once Tim goes bye bye (Or declines rapidly) so will Parker's game. For ya'll though, he is a better fit for you than Terry. For the soon to be champs Mavs though, Terry is a much better fit for us. Not only can he play point, but he can slide over to SG and be even more effective. (Which is his natural position) He has a much more rounded offensive game, and is physically bigger and stronger. He gives the Mavs great versatility and is the main reason we whooped ya'lls ASS when Avery made the adjustment to move him over. He is 28 and in his prime. Max him Cuban so we can continue to dominate!

You have too much Okie in you.

[DirkAB]

Parker

[FromWayDowntown]

He is lightning quick though and is good in transition and finishing around the rim. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 15 ft though.

Excellent analysis of the 2004-05 season. Rather than checking out boxscores, you might oughta watch the teams play ball. Parker isn't great from 15 feet and out -- yet. But he's better now than he was last year and he'll be better in 2006-07 than he was this year.

He gives the Mavs great versatility and is the main reason we whooped ya'lls ASS when Avery made the adjustment to move him over.

Again, you might oughta watch the games before you pipe up around here.

[SPARKY]

3rd in the NBA in field goal % last season despite that. Mavs fan was dropped on his head when he was young.

The last guard to finish that high was probably Stockton.

Age 24. Yeah, his career's over.

[Kori Ellis]

He hit 46% of his jumpers outside 16 ft after the A-S break. Despite his shooting percentage sucking in the Mavs series, his jumper is much improved and should be even better next season.

[FromWayDowntown]

The kid improved his shot as the season progressed and not just for a week or two. It's not just some fluke. It was his first season with a shooting guru. He'll be a better jumpshooter -- perhaps even an effective three point shooter -- in short order.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He hit 46% of his jumpers outside 16 ft after the A-S break. Despite his shooting percentage sucking in the Mavs series, his jumper is much improved and should be even better next season.

Very very true.


I remember before the Kings/Spurs series, I was ready to watch Parker throw up brick after brick from outside. Parker was like , not today oli, I've been working hard on my shot.

He's improved his shot dramatically.

[1Parker1]

Actually, I remember reading an article which said that Chip is working with Parker on his 3 point shooting this summer and adding that for next season. If he can knock that down ocassionaly, and improve as he did with his jumpers, he'll be an All-Star next season too

[ducks]

he will still get the blame though when spurs lose

[strangeweather]

he will still get the blame though when spurs lose

If TP can start hitting the outside shot consistently, who says they lose?

He's going to be a monster if he can add a real 3-point shot.

[ducks]

they are not going to win all 82 games and not go 16-0 in postseason

[strangeweather]

they are not going to win all 82 games and not go 16-0 in postseason

Fair enough.

And I guess you're right, unless he starts dropping 30-5-10s consistently and wins a finals MVP, there will still be people who are looking for an excuse to blame him for anything that goes wrong.

[Odogg]

Excellent analysis of the 2004-05 season. Rather than checking out boxscores, you might oughta watch the teams play ball. Parker isn't great from 15 feet and out -- yet. But he's better now than he was last year and he'll be better in 2006-07 than he was this year.



Again, you might oughta watch the games before you pipe up around here.

Uhhh, I did watch the games numbnut, and thats what happened?! Are you still in denial or something? Oh, I get it, you are on Pop's coaching staff and haven't "adjusted" yet. Terry moved over to SG while harris was inserted as the PG and thus small ball was implemented. You can't do that with Parker because he has no outside stroke and is too small to play any D on a SG. Obviously you are a basketball novice and are just a Spurs homer that can't see past his gay ass "Go Spurs Go" sign.

Like I said, Parker fits your team better while Terry fits ours. His numbers during the season mean because everyone knows nobody plays real D consistently during the season. In the playoffs, everyone wants to try and force him to shoot jumpers, that alone is enough to mean HE HAS NO JUMPER.
I could give a damn what his "shooting %" is outside 15 feet after the All Star break.

[timvp]

Once Parker has a three-point shot (next year hopefully), he'll be almost impossible to guard.

Can't wait.

[1Parker1]

Terry moved over to SG while harris was inserted as the PG and thus small ball was implemented. You can't do that with Parker because he has no outside stroke and is too small to play any D on a SG.

Jason Terry: 6-2, 180 pounds
Tony Parker: 6-2, 177 pounds

Yea, I can see where Parker would be too small to play any D on a SG, unlike Terry.

[strangeweather]

You can't do that with Parker because he has no outside stroke...

Well, there's this:

He hit 46% of his jumpers outside 16 ft after the A-S break.

If you can explain how that means he has no jumper, I'd love to hear it.

...and is too small to play any D on a SG.

He'd D'ed up Rip Hamilton over stretches of last year's finals pretty well.

[Odogg]

Jason Terry: 6-2, 180 pounds
Tony Parker: 6-2, 177 pounds

Yea, I can see where Parker would be too small to play any D on a SG, unlike Terry.

But JT has about 10 more lbs of MUSCLE and actually lifts a in weight. Unlike Parker who probably gets outbenched by EVA most nights. LoL.

And Rip is a run around screens spot up jump shooter. You just have to tag along and get a hand in his face. Chauncey ate him up, Terry and Harris ate him up and if Bibby had any semblance of his normal shot during that series, you guys would have been in BIG trouble. I give Parker his props but he is just a continuation of the LONG Line of "Softies" that have played for the Spurs. Big game situation, he runs off to the corner or is not even on the floor!

[1Parker1]

But JT has about 10 more lbs of MUSCLE and actually lifts a in weight.

Where do you get this inside knowledge from? Both look undersized and thin to me.

[FromWayDowntown]

Uhhh, I did watch the games numbnut, and thats what happened?! Are you still in denial or something? Oh, I get it, you are on Pop's coaching staff and haven't "adjusted" yet. Terry moved over to SG while harris was inserted as the PG and thus small ball was implemented. You can't do that with Parker because he has no outside stroke and is too small to play any D on a SG.

I'm not sure why it would ever behoove the Spurs to move Parker from the 1 to the 2. To that end, the Spurs ability to play small ball to match up with the Mavericks had nothing whatsoever to do with Parker and everything to do with the lack of athletic forward types. If the Spurs have anything resembling an athletic 4 man other than Duncan, the small ball experiment likely would have been nothing other than a footnote in Mavericks history.

As it was, the Spurs gave that series away, so I'm skeptical about there being any significant difference between those teams. The Spurs didn't execute when it mattered, the Mavericks did, and hence we are where we are.

Obviously you are a basketball novice and are just a Spurs homer that can't see past his gay ass "Go Spurs Go" sign.

Undoubtedly.

Like I said, Parker fits your team better while Terry fits ours. His numbers during the season mean because everyone knows nobody plays real D consistently during the season. In the playoffs, everyone wants to try and force him to shoot jumpers, that alone is enough to mean HE HAS NO JUMPER.
I could give a damn what his "shooting %" is outside 15 feet after the All Star break.

I'd dispute that that alone is enough to mean he has no jumper; that alone is enough to mean that teams get awfully tired of conceding layups because they can't keep Parker out of the lane. Even if Parker was a 70% shooter from distance, I'd still think it was a great coaching strategy to force him to shoot jumpers, since those are always lower percentage shots.

And, quite frankly, I could give a damn what you think about the number we're using; I find the statistic to be quite representative of what I observed of Parker's game from February on. Sacramento dared him to beat them with it and he did -- he did when he wasn't destroying them with drives to the rim. I still think that had he had any lift at all during the Dallas series, he would have shown it more there, too.

Whatever the case, just keep doubting Tony Parker -- tell him what he can't do. His game just gets better every year because people keep telling him he can't do this or that. And, remarkably, this or that gets better -- quickly.

[strangeweather]

But JT has about 10 more lbs of MUSCLE and actually lifts a in weight. Unlike Parker who probably gets outbenched by EVA most nights. LoL.

And Rip is a run around screens spot up jump shooter. You just have to tag along and get a hand in his face.

Hamilton dropped 20 PPG this year on 49% shooting because all his defenders were too lazy to "tag along and get a hand in his face"? You don't have a clue.

if Bibby had any semblance of his normal shot during that series, you guys would have been in BIG trouble.

Yeah, it's not like a guy's shot coming unglued is ever a sign of being defender well.

I give Parker his props but he is just a continuation of the LONG Line of "Softies" that have played for the Spurs.

Have you been a Mavs fan for more than a year?

[FromWayDowntown]

I give Parker his props but he is just a continuation of the LONG Line of "Softies" that have played for the Spurs. Big game situation, he runs off to the corner or is not even on the floor!

As opposed to all the Hard mother ers who've played in Dallas.

[1Parker1]

Holy , FWD cursed and said that MF word!!!

I'm shocked, I don't think I've ever heard him curse and get mad like that. I like it

[ShoogarBear]

Do Mav Fans take a vote every week to determine who will serve as their Collective Stupidity Representative? Or is there an on-call roster somewhere?

[FromWayDowntown]

Holy , FWD cursed and said that MF word!!!

I'm shocked, I don't think I've ever heard him curse and get mad like that. I like it