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Still hasn't been addressed.
You just parrotted the same "rape happens" argument.
Congratulations.
You know, whenever you put a few hundred thousand people together, crimes will be committed. Without knowing the facts in this case, I am willing to say, with complete certainty, that the military will hold a trial and if convicted, the man will be punished...just like with Abu Ghraib and other misdeeds. Justice will out.
Can the same be said of our enemy?
Still hasn't been addressed.
You just parrotted the same "rape happens" argument.
Congratulations.
No, I forwarded the "justice happens" argument.
And failed to address anything I brought up.
Sad how predictable the national response to this is...
Excuse-making/downplaying vs. Scoreboarding disguised as concern and/or moral outrage
Hard to pick a side when they're both full of . I choose Self-Righteous Detachment.
Who failed to address anything you brought up?
I believe this whole topic has too much of a political taint in it that it is hard to actually have a clean discussion about it.
But to parade here and have moral indignation about rape and act as if you're the only one that is disgusted by rape, screams of big bull .
The people here devoting their time and posting idiotic comments, as well as moronic cartoons like The modern world, have a precise political agenda.
DOes this setback the war? Yes, to other countries who have no stake in this and are against, or passively indifferent about our war on terror. But not to us, who have our own country men figthing.
The reasons disapproving the war should be reasons like, planning, reason for initiating, and other sound arguments which pertain to how our commander in cheif is handling the war.
But to now parade a nut who fell out of line and rally behind this "OMG, he committed rape, War be damned! " Bull and moral outrage, is silly and dishonest.
Would some of these truly outraged people then also conclude to the following;
1. Because Bill Clinton was also accused of rape, should have we automatically have judged him and impeached him on the seriousness of the charge and not the evidence.
2. Because Kobe Bryant was accused for raping a girl, did that stop any of you clowns from watching the NBA. After all, one could make the argument that the special celebrity status awarded to Nba Players, and the excesses that come with being overpayed, do lead to a "i'm above the law" at ude.
3.If the rape had occured in afghanistan on the pursuit of OBL, does that make the hunt for OBL discreditted.
These are the type of conclusions one must lead to if they fall on this whole "One Rape Crime discredits the war Effort" argument.
Chump, no one here is excusing rape. In fact everyone here, even Xray, believes that this guy should be punished if found guilty.
We are defending the war effort, and not the perpetrator. And you know this, but are too busy trying to up one on all of us "right wingers". Sad, wish you were more honest.
But i ask you this, had this been a girl who was raped in the states, would of that incident lead to this many responses on this board?
Or is an Iraqi rape victim more valuable than an american rape victim?
So this HELPS our effort in Iarq?DOes this setback the war? Yes, to other countries who have no stake in this and are against, or passively indifferent about our war on terror. But not to us, who have our own country men figthing.Had she been raped by a soldier from a country occupying our land? Yes.But i ask you this, had this been a girl who was raped in the states, would of that incident lead to this many responses on this board?
My whole focus has been on how this effects the situation in Iraq.
I meant to say in the last sentence that it shouldn't be a setback.
That's a silly scenario to compare to. If you are arguing wether this incident should affect us supporting the war.
Regardless, most of the iRaqi's still want us there for economic gain.
No minds will be made up on this war becuase of a up who raped a girl.
I agree it's silly to expect us to talk about individual rapes in the US.That's a silly scenario to compare to.I'm not.If you are arguing wether this incident should affect us supporting the war.Is there a poll for that? I haven't seen it. Honest question - I know there have been polls.Regardless, most of the iRaqi's still want us there for economic gain.
In Iraq? Definitely.
There are thousands of Okinawans and Koreans who want us out of their countries for the exact same reason. Bush always said that we were staying in the country at the pleasure of the Iraqi government. Enough incidents like that and they might just kick us out before we should go. It is a democracy after all, right?
I would think they would want them there because their elected representatives insist we stay, and also due to the fact that 75% of iraq is SHiite and are supportive of our efforts to eradicate the sunni extremist.
I'm looking for the polls. I doubt there is a tracking poll, but I've seen others.
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