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I just saw it.Sorry, I just saw the last 2-3 posts by Timvp and GIG.
What?
I just posted a brand new article about him.
I just saw it.
So if they're at a impass...I wonder how much the kid's asking for?
Maybe the Wiz are just lowballing him?
I have been proclaiming Jeffries from the start.....a lot of people seem to bash him, but he's been my boy from the get go.
Washington won't overpay.....but at the same time I don't want to throw him the whole MLE, but thats probably what it will take to nab him away from Washington.
If push comes to shove.....let's play the small ball role....and give him the MLE.
C: Duncan, Javtokas, Oberto
PF:Jeffries, Bonner, Horry
SF: Bowen, Finley
SG:Ginobili, Barry
PG:Parker, Udrih
IR:Marks, Sanders, and 3rd PG
Damn, our SG and SF position need some youth bad....we're getting old...
Washington would match a full MLE offer. That's why they won't offer much more than that. Why offer more when $30M is the max he'll get on the open market?
Smart.
I doubt Jeffries starts at 4.
But bring him off the bench for this year, maybe next...as long as Bowen is around. He'll still play a lot of minutes, but once Bowen is gone you can slide him into the starting lineup.
Is that what Washington offered?
Washington would match a full MLE offer. That's why they won't offer much more than that. Why offer more when $30M is the max he'll get on the open market?
Smart.
What makes you so sure Washington would match the MLE? All they have offered so far is a contract starting at 2.7 million....and they are at a stand still right now in negotiations....and Washington has already stated they don't plan on over paying.
So, the Spurs should just offer him the full MLE, since they know half the MLE won't cut it.....then see if Washington really pulls the trigger.....I say no because if they really wanted him as bad as they claim....they would have found a way to sign him already and not needed a team like SA to push them against the wall.....and of course, they already have a handful of players on lengthy deals.....
Spurs/Holt overpaying for a player like Jefferies?
Another thing to remember is the Spurs would only offer a four-year MLE deal because the Spurs are saving money for 2010-11.
Seriously.
Yeah, I understand that the Spurs will nearly have around 30 million come off the books come around 2010.
Maybe Jeffries wouldn't mind a 4 year deal worth 20 million....
Rajah Bell got 24 million and 5 years last year.....
But, like I said, what makes you so sure that Washington would still even match a 20 million, 4 year offer?
They already have ton's of money that does not seem like it could be moved this summer and they have only offered him 2.7 million thus far, and are still at a stand still....maybe even 20 million over 4 years would be too much for them....but, who knows.
Last edited by El_Mago; 07-07-2006 at 01:51 AM.
I understand the Spurs desire to offer only a 4-year MLE, however I would hope they wouldn't allow the number of years to stall negotiations.
Players in their last contractual years are viewed as valuable trading chips in the open market.
That said, if the Spurs view this guy as a prime FA acquisition, they can still offer him a 5-yr MLE and simply trade him at the conclusion of the fourth year.
I understand this was a sticking point in the Pryzbilla negotiations. If this kid wants to come here, I trust the same thing won't happen again.
Ideally, that idea would work, Senor.
But, we all know it's not super easy to move a player.....just like we struggled to move Rasho's deal these past few summers and trade deadlines.
However, I'm with you....the Spurs should still pull the trigger.....I love this kid's game...although, some people don't feel the same.....it's all good.
They will let it happen again because their picky on this ! Its gonna be so much fun to watch our ing mangement piss away the remaining years of Duncan,Parker,Ginobili trio
Holt and everyone in that front office ing things up!
I mean, if the whole 2010 deal is that big of a ing deal....
Then what? Should we not expect the Spurs to sign any quality players for the next few years...to deals that exceed 2010.....only up and coming players, who would even think about signing 1 or 2 year deals....
That would mean, that any established player seeking a long term deal wanting to come here shouldn't even bother...because the spurs have no intentions of signing any contracts past 2010.....until that time comes....
out of here....
Link to where it says the Spurs are saving money for 2010?
That's exactly the point that scares me too Shaggy. TD is not only one of the best Spurs of all-time, he's arguably the best PF of all-time. The Spurs never won a championship until he arrived and may never sniff the finals again after he retires.They will let it happen again because their picky on this ! Its gonna be so much fun to watch our ing mangement piss away the remaining years of Duncan,Parker,Ginobili trio
As such, they should be doing everything possible to ensure the club has the right mix of players needed to make that annual run. With the way the NBA is now, clubs have to improve every year. Of course, this also means being smart and making good decisions with salaries.
Pop said it himself. He wanted to target a "Derrick McKey-type" player during the offseason. Well, this guy seems to fit that mold. The fact that he can defend all five spots makes him sort of a Boris Diaw-type of player.
If Pop has "sold his soul" to the new NBA, "small-ball", philosophy - then GO GET THIS GUY. If he and RC feel this guy can contribute towards the goal of winning a championship - GO GET THIS GUY. To with 2011.
Waiting for that link that says they are saving for 2010.
There's no link to reading between the lines. Go read Ludden the last week and figure it out.
Nazr's extension offer (last year) would have only taken him through 09-10. Przybilla, they wouldn't offer the 5th year -- only through 09-10. So obviously, they are looking to do something in 2010. I'm not sure if it will prohibit them from offering any five year deals this summer -- we'll see. But it's obvious that they aren't eager to spend any money for that year (after Ginobili and Duncan's contracts are up).
There's no link to reading between the lines.
good god...
I just explained it to you. I don't think it's that funny. *shrug*
good god...
I think its hilarious the "read between the lines"
I think its hilarious to just totally draw conclusions from one article.....
Not one article. Nazr's extension offer. Przybilla's extension offer. It's a pattern so far of only offering 4 years. We'll see if they offer anyone five. It's logical that they are planning on doing "something" when Duncan/Manu's contracts are out. They probably would like to sign a big name free agent next to Tony.
Spurs are tight as with their money.....in 2010 nearly 30 million come off the books when Tim and Manu become free agents....Waiting for that link that says they are saving for 2010.
By that time, Spurs could make a power play to give Tony Parker a buddy SuperStar...
To some it was common salary logic (especially when it comes to this team)...to other's it obviously was not
Like Timvp said, it had to be read between the lines...
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