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    I spoke with the WDFN studio, they believe (and are calling Pistons source to confirm) that Joel's chronic knee problems scared them away in the end...
    Then you would think the Spurs aren't interested in 5 years for him either.

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    everyone seems too tough on Nazr, i think he will work well in Detroit.

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    Younger players give less of a about rings.

    Younger players with wives and kids -- even less.

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    Would the Spurs be interested in a Dale Davis and $1.5M TE for Nazr Mohammed S&T? Davis is in the last year of his contract that will pay him $3.5M...

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    ground up diamonds makes his dookie sparkle I guess.


    damn why is it always about the $$ with these guys??
    Big Ben leaves DET over 2mil a yr??? Althoguh I have to say it's ed that they didn't counter offer.
    but you know what I mean .... it's all about the paycheck. WHY?

    you would think that once you get past a certain dollar amount that it really wouldn;t effect your day to day standard of living. Is there really somehting out there that they absolutely have to have that they can't afford at this point?

    What ever happend to love of the game?

    thats why I like Bowen - dude took a payCUT to help out the team.

    yeah ONLY 2 mil a yr. Thats 8 million in the 4yr span. You're telling me you would turn down 8 million? Easier said than done. He didn't like Flip so it made it all that easier to leave.

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    I think alot of people need to calm down. I am going to give our front office the benefit of the doubt. Everyone who seems to be excited realizes what type of budget and contracts our team will not give. This should surprise no one...
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    I think that's what it was, the Flip factor.

    You think he wouldn't of stayed around in a defensive oriented team? Dumars probably knows the direction the team is heading, and knows Ben wouldn't have been as valuable for them as he has been in the past.



    Also, somebody said he had concerns about Wallace's legs, and giving him a long term contract at this age for huge money would be risky.

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    Would you come here if you were a center? Just a simple question.

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    Would the Spurs be interested in a Dale Davis and $1.5M TE for Nazr Mohammed S&T? Davis is in the last year of his contract that will pay him $3.5M...
    Dale Davis as a starter? no.

    But if you start a Oberto/Javkotas and have a security blanket off the bench like Dale Davis I would go for that. The guy I would LOVE to have is antonio davis.

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    Why are Spurs fans surprised that Mohammed might walk? That's been the plan from the start.

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    Would the Spurs be interested in a Dale Davis and $1.5M TE for Nazr Mohammed S&T? Davis is in the last year of his contract that will pay him $3.5M...
    Please. Enough with the "old guy" references already.

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    Would you come here if you were a center? Just a simple question.
    If I were an average center, being offered a starting job for good money? Why the not.


    *edit - on a championship caliber team, too.

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    yeah ONLY 2 mil a yr. Thats 8 million in the 4yr span. You're telling me you would turn down 8 million? Easier said than done. He didn't like Flip so it made it all that easier to leave.
    you would think that once you get past a certain dollar amount that it really wouldn;t effect your day to day standard of living. Is there really somehting out there that they absolutely have to have that they can't afford at this point?
    If someone offered me an envelope with 8 mill in it?? no.

    but if I was already sitting on a big ass bank roll exploding to the point that it takes weeks to count....
    I think I would look to other things than $$$ to make my decision.

    But Ben can make any decision he wants. And he did. Like I said I was surprised that DET didn't counter offer since it was *only* 2mil per yr.

    it's this trend... there is no pint of us even sittting around tlaking about who MAY or MIGHT go where or which of the 3 teams offering a guy might get him.. since we all know that the player will OF COURSE decide to go with the team offering the most $$$.

    hence my love of bruce bowen.


    also: I was unaware there was hard feeligns between Ben and flip.... hmmmmmmmmmmm.

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    what would u give up for camby? lol

    you know there is only one player the Nuggets would want. The man greatly disliked in Denver but surely the most loved man if he was in a Nuggets uniform

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    You don't know that for sure. All you know is a Portland writer with connections knew Joel had an offer from Detroit.

    For all we know Detroit called up the agents for both players, said here's the offer, first one to accept it gets it.
    But what I'm wondering is will the Spurs go that high, i'm not so sure when it comes to a 5 year contract. With Nazr gone, the Spurs must have offered Pryz something by now, if we are interested. Since we have not heard anything yet, then we are probably not offering enough, or he wants to stay in Portland. I guess my reason for thinking this way is that I believe I'm going against the grain in thinking that Pryz is better than Nazr, by however little that may be.

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    Perhaps the Spurs aren't feeling a long term commitment to anyone outside of the Big 3.

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    I think alot of people need to calm down. I going to give our front office the benefit ofthe doubt. Everyone who seems to be excited realizes what type of budget and contracts our team will not give. This should surprise no one...
    No ...I think 3 world championships should buy a little "benefit of the doubt"

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    what would u give up for camby? lol

    you know there is only one player the Nuggets would want. The man greatly disliked in Denver but surely the most loved man if he was in a Nuggets uniform
    I would give up anybody other than TP/Manu/Duncan.

    No way in I give up Manu for Camby.

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    Perhaps the Spurs aren't feeling a long term commitment to anyone outside of the Big 3.
    What this guy said.

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    the Big 3 is enough to get a ring, a serviceable center would be enough

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    The Big 3 is enough to make fans think they have a shot at a le and to make the 2nd round of the postseason. Why spend more?

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    the Big 3 is enough to get a ring, a serviceable center would be enough
    But we don't have a serviceable center.

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    Looks like we should just go with this. If Javkotas comes along well stick him at PF/C.

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    I'm sure the Spurs have something up their sleeves, and I doubt we'll find out before signing day.

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    The new nba is all about small ball...

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