, he's 26 and his damn prime years are being spent fukin overseas
Spurs just need to spend the money on this guy and see what happens
500K but I get your point.
They probably think he's a good player for someone and worth a first round pick. However, they don't think that he is a good fit for the Spurs. In recent reports in the Express-News, they have said that the Spurs don't need another power forward to play behind Duncan. So I guess they don't think he'd be a good fit playing next to Duncan.
For superfedja, here is a recap of the things we can reasonably say for sure about the situation with Scola.
Scola's buyout is about $4 million. He says he wants to pay it. Spurs can only cover about $500,000 of the buyout. Since that leaves about $3,500,000 for Scola to pay out of his own pocket, he will want a big contract from whoever he plays for, probably somewhere close to the full Mid-Level Exception. Spurs want to hold on to that for now and not blow it all before the signing period even begins, perhaps saving it to spend on another free agent. Scola really wants to come to the NBA, but the Spurs won't take him this year. Next year, they will have his rights for a much cheaper sum. So Scola or his agent or the Spurs or all three want to make a trade happen. Problem is, he isn't worth the buyout, plus the big contract to indirectly cover the buyout, plus a draft pick. He is a great Euro player, but he is a big question mark when it comes to the NBA, so another team isn't likely to give up a valuable first round pick for a guy they will have to give the full MLE to and who is completely unproven. The problem is further compounded by the fact that the Spurs see a lot of potential in him and don't want to give up on the guy without getting something meaningful in return. Cash or future considerations are not an even trade in the Spurs minds since they think Scola will be a balla, and they don't do enough to reward the Spurs foresight in scouting and drafting him. He could be a force in the L, but no one who wants his rights is willing to trade something tangible to the Spurs for a player that is potentially good.
As you can see, this isn't Holt or R.C. or Pop being a cheap asshole. This is good business. Don't pay more for something than it's worth, but don't give up something for nothing. I feel sorry for Scola, but I don't think it was the Spurs who ed him. Maybe it was bad advice from an agent, but , he's a ing adult, he's accountable for his own mistakes. It's fine to feel sorry for him, but don't get pissed at the Spurs for not giving out what amounts to charity to some guy when they don't have to. You Spurs fans know this organization is better than to just intentionally screw some guy without a damn good reason. Shame on you for flipping out about this , especially when you don't understand all the facts.
Last edited by conqueso; 07-06-2006 at 01:00 PM. Reason: numbers
Could you clarify something once and for all for a bunch of us.
Next summer, do the Spurs have to pay anything or do anything to have Scola come to the Spurs? Many think the $$ amount is zero and he is free to come to SA without any further contract obligation to Tau.
He is under contract with Tau for 2 more seasons. So next summer, he still has a buyout. I don't know how much that is -- that's up to his negotiations with Tau.
I don't know why next summer would be any different a situation, the buyout should be the same amount. Maybe then TAU sees the writing on the walls and wants some money for him, maybe they play utter hardball.
It's probably a smart tactic by Scola's agent to act pissed off and try to make the Spurs trade him out of desperation. Well, it would be a smart tactic if it were any other team. The Spurs hold their own in staredowns.
Maybe the recent wave of shower rod hangings by Spurs fans will swing things the other way.
That really doesn't make much sense. To sign him, a team would have to offer a contract >> $4M so Scola can buyout. If they are willing to sign him up for that much, that would be more than a 1st rounder.
My guess is that Spurs wanted to include trading Barry (or another player) for a specific player on the other team.
I don't know. Seems like the Spurs just wanted to trade him for a 1st rounder and cash considerations and no other team gave that.
Scola is going to die of coronary artery disease before he steps foot in an nba court if he cant get out of that euro contract
Exactly. Not only that. The free-agent market is worse than last year. What the ? we need a couple of big defenders and right now we have jack . It's not the time to be a cheap-ass if we wanna go for a championship next year.
Yes he has a horrible contract but , get over that already and sign the mother er.
When I heard Rasho and Nazr were gone I was 100% sure Scola was coming over. Now, I'm ing pissed
Ok, I get it. It's just that this guy is not getting any younger and his trade value will go down rather than up.
What do people actually think Scola will do if the Spurs signed him? Put up 15 and 8 boards with great defense? I think you have to be pretty delusional to think this guy will add anything great next season over what the Spurs could get for cheaper. The team is already there. Not too much needed to add to the team, and a LOT of time to do it. And who say's Oberto can't play? The guy got minutes all year - no one is gonna perform playing 6 minutes a game if he plays at all. The Spurs wanted him to get his feet wet on NBA ball, next season will be his time to get minutes and perform. Give the guy a chance. You all have gotta be the same people who were CALLING for TP to be traded for Jason Kidd a couple of years ago. It's that kind of impatient bull that would have the Spurs only winning 16 games a year in no time.
That would be interesting.
If he pulls some like that I could see the Spurs in effect ruining the prime of his career.
This year we have to pay Javtokas.
Spurs and J. have already agreed (we'll see next 12 July) to a three years contract.
3 years means MLE.
He's supposed to be paid more than Oberto (he has more market value than Oberto had) so, at least, three / four milions a year.
So, where are the four millions for Scola ?
No way, in any case...
Next year is Scola Year (probably with the entire MLE!)
Where did you see Javtokas making that much money? He's getting the LLE.
If the agent is telling it straight Spurs were looking to trade Scola's right only for a 2007 first round pick not a 2006 pick. Interesting.
I always red that he's gonna be signing for three years...that means MLE not LLE.
He's the best European center, and considered like that in the market.
Oberto is paid 2,5 millions.
Garbajosa 4 millions.
At least, I'm sure he will be paid in the middle (also if, in perspective, he's worth more than Garbajosa because of his obvious nba game skills...see blocking and rebounding).
Less than 3 millions avery one of the three years, imho, would be an absolute steal...!
That was printed one year ago. It's ambiguous though, since when his contract expires he won't have a buyout obviously. So it looks like next year his buyout will be $1 million, and E-N reported that as if it was a term written into the contract. We'll see though, but $1 million is doable, especially if we pick up half of it.
Hmm... $1M is chump change.
Maybe, but the Spurs have usually been pretty good at keeping things from getting personal. I can't imagine they would waste any effort to "ruin" someone's career at the expense of the team. I'd be surprised if it develops into anything. The Spurs have a couple of back channels to Scola on the roster, which is probably a plus, too.
so next year is it one milllion?
My guess is that Javtokas isn't getting any of the MLE. Otherwise they couldn't have offered the full MLE to Przybilla. I'm guessing that means Javtokas got the LLE.
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