Ludden: Spurs unable to land Mourning

[shaggy17]

Well, judging by the article about Zo, they are doing something, so why don't you shut up and see what happens?




David Robinson couldn't play heavy minutes his last year either, why don't you go about that?

Stop acting like you havent been hard on the front office either! You have been pissed off with them as well so stop contradicting yourself

[FromWayDowntown]

So I cant criticize them?? I am not a spurs fan if I dog them like they deserve at the moment? I love the spurs but right now I am going to be like this till they ing do something! When/If they do something then maybe MAYBE I will start to be confident in them again. I just think it is really stupid to defend them right now when they havent dont a damn thing!

So is doing anything preferrable to doing something smart?

I'd say at this point, the Spurs have already done something positive this offseason by ridding themselves of Rasho's contract and acquiring a couple of expiring contracts that, at the very least, can be used to make later trades. That's at least something productive.

Don't say they haven't done anything; say that they haven't made a rash move to overpay anyone.

[Enygmatic]

Can we at least agree that this has been a "less than productive" off season. I mean other than dumping off Rasho's contract we still have a Back up PG problem and the obvious starting center problem. Its gonna be about what we are willing to give up in order to fix these problems. We can either give up personel or we can give up next season. Grant it we were one foul away from moving on to the next round, everyone else seems to be getting better...but if I know the spurs they are gonna be ok no matter what they do. I mean we didnt really do much after 200.4 and we won the le back next year...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Stop acting like you havent been hard on the front office either! You have been pissed off with them as well so stop contradicting yourself

I was pissed when it appeared as though they weren't doing anything. Like I said, Ludden's article about Zo proves they are still working on the center situation.

That gives them a reprieve from me.

Why don't you go log in under one of your other user names and give yourself some backup?

[shaggy17]

I was pissed when it appeared as though they weren't doing anything. Like I said, Ludden's article about Zo proves they are still working on the center situation.

That gives them a reprieve from me.

Why don't you go log in under one of your other user names and give yourself some backup?

I dont have "another user name" so I will argue all my points with this one only if that is okay with you

[ChumpDumper]

Can we at least agree that this has been a "less than productive" off season.

No.

It's July 9.

[FromWayDowntown]

Can we at least agree that this has been a "less than productive" off season.

Jettisoning Rasho's deal is FAR more than I expected from the Spurs this off-season. All else is just icing, IMO.

[Enygmatic]

No.

It's July 9.

I meant So Far....

[ChumpDumper]

I meant I won't make ANY overall judgments on July 9.

[Bruno]

For the moment Spurs have had a good offseason :
- Spurs have traded Rasho + $1M for Bonner + Williams + 2009 2nd round pick.
Dumping Rasho for expiring players that can be usefull is a great deal.
- Spurs have traded their second round pick for a 2007 second round pick (the best between Bucks and Houston). Trading a 59th pick for a future pick in a deeper draft who will likely be between 40th and 50th is a great trade.
- Spurs will sign Javtokas : good move, he seems to be a quite good player.
- The only mistake you can think they have done is with Scola : not signing him and not trading his rights isn't maybe the best solution.

So good start.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

- The only mistake you can think they have done is with Scola : not signing him and not trading his rights isn't maybe the best solution.

It's way too early to say that how they've handled the situation is a mistake.

[Bruno]

It's way too early to say that how they've handled the situation is a mistake.

Agree, that's why I say maybe.

[Slinkyman]

I have to think as long as we add a back up SF and another big (other then Jak) it's a good offseason, whether we trade for them or sign them those are two positions that need to be filled before next season. I don't care at this point if they're NBA players or from overseas, just find someone that can come in and contribute.

[Obstructed_View]

Ummmm whatever the that means

What it means is that you have declared defeat before the ing free agent period even starts. That wouldn't be a big deal, except you've done it A THOUSAND TIMES in the last five days. You think the front office is cheap. We. ing. Get. It. What T Park is saying is that if you have nothing better to keep posting than useless sarcastic over and over and over and over you should hang yourself from the shower curtain and do us all a favor.

[picnroll]

Signing Mourning to a two-year contract with a healthy raise from the $1.1 million he made last season also would have fit well with the Spurs' financial plans: Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are the team's only players currently under contract after the 2007-08 season.

Holting Pattern V1.1. If they hold tight to a strategy of freeing up cap space for the 2008 off season the Spurs will be severely limited in the moves they can make.

[ShoogarBear]

Would any Spurs fan be against a Barry for Haywood swap? That trade makes a lot of sense, especially considering the Wizards have been looking for a SG and it would save the Spurs some money.

Yes.

Brendan Haywood is Mr. Half-Assed himself. At least Rasho/Nazr were trying out there.

[ShoogarBear]

Not only that, the Wiz are highly sensitized to trading a (relatively) young big guy for an old little guy. See Webber/Richmond. The Spurs would probably have to give something else up.

[shaggy17]

What it means is that you have declared defeat before the ing free agent period even starts. That wouldn't be a big deal, except you've done it A THOUSAND TIMES in the last five days. You think the front office is cheap. We. ing. Get. It. What T Park is saying is that if you have nothing better to keep posting than useless sarcastic over and over and over and over you should hang yourself from the shower curtain and do us all a favor.

You wanna keep acting like I am the only one upset with them at the moment???? Unless we ing do something, I wont stop on this . From reading all these express articles as well, it seems like we are in a real tough spot and trying to not spend much more but it doesnt deserve any criticizing??? I love this team and I wont stop being a true die hard fan of them but I will diss them when it is needed. How cant I think negative thoughts on the direction of this team with the days passing by and the smoke clearing up?? If we do something (Which believe it or not I actually am still holding out a tad of hope for despite my posts) I will gladly eat crow.

[Obstructed_View]

You wanna keep acting like I am the only one upset with them at the moment???? Unless we ing do something, I wont stop on this . From reading all these express articles as well, it seems like we are in a real tough spot and trying to not spend much more but it doesnt deserve any criticizing??? I love this team and I wont stop being a true die hard fan of them but I will diss them when it is needed. How cant I think negative thoughts on the direction of this team with the days passing by and the smoke clearing up?? If we do something (Which believe it or not I actually am still holding out a tad of hope for despite my posts) I will gladly eat crow.

Don't act like you are being reasonable in questioning the direction of the team or the long term plan of the front office when you ing post this thirty times a day. If you posted up every week or even every two or three days to say "I'm worried about their plans" that would be one thing, but every single post is some smart ass sarcastic about how the Spurs are gonig to stick their s in their asses because the owner's a cheap and the Spurs don't want to ever win a basketball game again. Like I said. We get it. I'm not acting like you are the only one upset, but you are the only one that won't ing let it go long enough to stop ruining every thread with your idiotic ranting. Nobody is looking forward to having to read 50 of your posts a day from now until the trade deadline, and they don't want to have to wish the Spurs would just make a trade or sign someone terrible just so you'll get your head out of the ing oven.

[Despot]

You wanna keep acting like I am the only one upset with them at the moment???? Unless we ing do something, I wont stop on this . From reading all these express articles as well, it seems like we are in a real tough spot and trying to not spend much more but it doesnt deserve any criticizing??? I love this team and I wont stop being a true die hard fan of them but I will diss them when it is needed. How cant I think negative thoughts on the direction of this team with the days passing by and the smoke clearing up?? If we do something (Which believe it or not I actually am still holding out a tad of hope for despite my posts) I will gladly eat crow.

Don't you get it? The problem is that in your posts you rarely contribute to the basketball discussion, and when you do, you are mostly off base and uninformed. Not to mention that you complain about the FO in just about every post, it has gotten pretty annoying that you are the cause for alot of threads going off-topic. Wanna talk about trades? I would trade you for a few Mavs Trolls about now, your bantering is making threads painful to come in and read.

[shaggy17]

Don't act like you are being reasonable in questioning the direction of the team or the long term plan of the front office when you ing post this thirty times a day. If you posted up every week or even every two or three days to say "I'm worried about their plans" that would be one thing, but every single post is some smart ass sarcastic about how the Spurs are gonig to stick their s in their asses because the owner's a cheap and the Spurs don't want to ever win a basketball game again. Like I said. We get it. I'm not acting like you are the only one upset, but you are the only one that won't ing let it go long enough to stop ruining every thread with your idiotic ranting. Nobody is looking forward to having to read 50 of your posts a day from now until the trade deadline, and they don't want to have to wish the Spurs would just make a trade or sign someone terrible just so you'll get your head out of the ing oven.

You made your point trying to use insulting cussing towards me. Nice le by the way because you obviously live up to the f-bomb king label . Believe it or not some people here actually do agree with my posts so you can stop the BS about that as well! Nice post though I got some good laughs reading your graphic description on my views of them are...ah good stuff

[shaggy17]

Don't you get it? The problem is that in your posts you rarely contribute to the basketball discussion, and when you do, you are mostly off base and uninformed. Not to mention that you complain about the FO in just about every post, it has gotten pretty annoying that you are the cause for alot of threads going off-topic. Wanna talk about trades? I would trade you for a few Mavs Trolls about now, your bantering is making threads painful to come in and read.

Well thanks I do appreciate the honesty . However saying my arguments are stupid and defending the front office is pretty lame but to each their own

[ChumpDumper]

You're a one-take pony.

You've got nothing else.

[Obstructed_View]

You made your point trying to use insulting cussing towards me. Nice le by the way because you obviously live up to the f-bomb king label . Believe it or not some people here actually do agree with my posts so you can stop the BS about that as well! Nice post though I got some good laughs reading your graphic description on my views of them are...ah good stuff

Um, when I use "insulting cussing" towards you, you will know. I'm just frustrated with how stupid you appear to be. There may be people that agree with you, but about 90 percent of your posts state the same idea over and over and over. There are more people that agree with me that you should get over it and actually try to bring something constructive to the conversation. I suspect that you actually have nothing else to bring, which is why you repeat the same thing over and over. Trust me, it's not insightful enough to require repe ion.

[shaggy17]

You're a one-take pony.

You've got nothing else.

I said to each their own. I have my views on them and you can agree to disagree to them.