seriously, if elson is it as far as bigman additions to the team then duncan will move to the 5 spot 'officially'. i have a feeling the spurs would like to see that. then start bonner or horry or whoever at the 4.
I love the Bonner trade. It got rid of Rasho and his contract. I was making those remarks because timvp was bashing Elson every chance he got, while when the Spurs got Bonner he was all high on him. When I think that Elson is a better player than Bonner. Thats why I made that comment.
I get that. You've made the comment repeatedly.
Bonner is good for what he is. A 3-point shooter who spreads the floor.
How is Elson good for what he is? (And please don't say he's a shotblocker)
So let me get this straight:
1) The Spurs are sabotoging the roster so Duncan gets stuck at center.
2) The Spurs should build for now, so in 5 years we can suck and get high draft picks to help the team build around Tony Parker.
Your logic is brilliant, man.
He is quite fast
From what I saw from him last year, he looked like an aggresive big man who fights for boards and is a decent defender. He looked alot better than Rasho or Nazr. I never said he was a "shotblocker." I think he will fit in well as the Spurs starting Center. Is he my first choice? No. It would be nice if they can find a way to get another Center to split time with Elson. But if they dont find a better Center than Elson, I think the Spurs will be okay.
Thats even if what Karl says is true and Denver doesnt match. But if they dont, I (unlike several others here) will be happy with the fact that the Spurs got a decent big man who can rebound and defend.
Trouble is Elson isn't a good rebounder. He's on the same level as Rasho and Horry.
the spurs have weakened the 5 spot so duncan moves there. based on what the spurs have said about how the league is moving to ever more athletic 4s and comments about duncan moving to the 5 that is not that surprising. the spurs won their last le with duncan at the 5 and horry at the 4 for most of the games anyways. fans are hung up on the twin towers concept.
yeah, i think the spurs should do what they can to win les now and not worry about 2011. not sure where you see an inconsistency, but i'll chalk it up to you being up past your bedtime.
compared to you, tpark is brilliant.
Moving Ducan to the 5 is one thing, saying the front office wouldn't mind seeing that and implying they brought in scrubs to ensure it happens is another.
Good for you, I think we should do what we can to win now as well as ensure we're still compe ive in years to come.
Compared to you...nvmnd, I won't stoop to your level.
what's wrong with saying that the front office wouldnt mind duncan moving to the 5? that would solve a lot of problems. he's the best center in the league. finding a decent center is expensive and somewhat redundant. so bring in crap and force td to play center.
once duncan and manu are gone, this team's window is closed. francisco won't be able to save them.Good for you, I think we should do what we can to win now as well as ensure we're still compe ive in years to come.
This is painful.
Ok...There's nothing wrong with Duncan playing the 5. However you sayig they "brougt in crap and force him to play center" is just stupid. There's some conspiracy theorists out there, but I don't think any of them have a team wasting 9 million for an illusion to get your superstar to play center instead of power forward.
Again, Elson won't...but his contract will help us. He's a mercenary (spelling?). Whih seems the route the spurs are going. Hire somebody to fit around our big 3 for two or three years than get rid of them. That' what Horry is, that's what Finley is, that's what Elson will be.
I'm done for the night, G'nite my lovely's.
this what makes me a little bit optomistic about the Spurs' future esp in the 2006-07 season.
Stephen Jackson was an unknown when he came to play for us, there was a lot of doubts about Nazr too. Now they are playing for Indiana and Detroit commanding big contracts.
Let's just hope for the best. I'm looking forward to see a lot of improvement form Oberto too esp now that Duncan might play center.
You're excited about Bonner? Seriously?
Why not?
Because he looks dorky and is white?
The guy can ing shot like it's nobodies business.
Okay, so you're excited about Bonner. ...Seriously?
Here is what a Nuggets fan said about Elson on a Denver Broncos site I frequent.
"On a good night, he can be a serviceable big man who can grab some rebounds for you. On a bad night, he's a foul machine who'll be headed back to the bench just as fast as he got off of it. He shows flashes sometimes that make you think that he could be a pretty decent player and then will wash those away by showing a serious lack of basketball IQ. He's tall with long arms, but can be awfully clumsy. Could be a solid bench guy if he ever lives up to his potential.
The most noteworthy thing he's done in his time in Denver was during the '04 playoffs when he called Kevin Garnett "gay."
Sounds like a winner. Exactly the sorbet to wash away the meaty meal that was Robertas Javtokas.
4 Points
4 Boards
Those are his stats in 20 minutes per game last season.
As a starter here playing around 30 minutes a game I would say he goes for at least 8 points, 6 boards. I don't think that's a stretch.
Well, he did start 54 games last season.
5.6 pts, 5.4 reb in 24.7 minutes.
I wouldn't expect much more than that.
I mean, he cant be any worse than Rasho and I think the Spurs are looking for someone to fill that void for 15-20 mins a game and coming at a reasonable price, which for a center w/ those type of contributions, $3 million per is ideal versus what Nazr is going to make and how much they were spending for Rasho.
Come to think of it, I dont mind him coming on board as long as he plays hard and does what he is expected too do - which is take to up space, hit the occasional J and rebound w/ aggression. He seems to fit that mold.
Francisco Elson will come in to establish a high foul count earlier in the quarter. This slows down the ends of quarters with lots of free throws from the opposition, which works to our advantage in pace.
Yeah, "BIG SHOT BON"
starting center francisco elson will precede starting center tim duncan
I think it's closer to Duncan playing both starting center AND starting power forward at the same time, while Francisco Elson will still be labelled a bench player despite standing on the floor at tip-off.
That's another sucky thing about kicking Jav to the curb; we never would have lost the opening tip.
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