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    How, if at all, does this signing (if it is guaranteed) affect the already slim possibility of the Javtokas signing? Does it kill it or is that more something controlled by the Butler matching and mid level exception? Don't really know much about those things but interested because I'm a long time Javtokas fan.

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    It could be a 2-year unguaranteed deal, which means that no money is guaranteed at all unless he is still on the team in January. Then if he is, the rest of this season is guaranteed and the following season would be a team option.

    When players come to training camp in the fall, they all sign 2-year unguaranteed deals.
    So this is just the standard training camp deal they hand out every year to 3-4 wannabees that we never hear of again. Now that makes a lot more sense!

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    The 26-year-old Melzer got his break after impressing in the Orlando Magic summer league and 10 days in camp with the Spurs last month.
    The spurs were impressed with these numbers. Link Truly ing astonishing. Of all the players to sign, a Rich Melzer???? The drama continues.

    http://www.vegassummerleague.com/pla...ason=2&team=12

    That's in 05 but whatever. I'm still asleep.

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    The spurs were impressed with these numbers. Link Truly ing astonishing. Of all the players to sign, a Rich Melzer???? The drama continues.

    http://www.vegassummerleague.com/pla...ason=2&team=12
    Those are last year's numbers.

    I already posted the link to his games in Orlando this year. They are talking about the Orlando summer league 2006, not LV summer league 2005.

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    So this is just the standard training camp deal they hand out every year to 3-4 wannabees that we never hear of again. Now that makes a lot more sense!
    Yeah, no matter what his NZ team is going to have to replace him, and that's the way they are reporting it, because they don't know or care if the contract is guaranteed or not, just that he's leaving.

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    So this is just the standard training camp deal they hand out every year to 3-4 wannabees that we never hear of again. Now that makes a lot more sense!
    I hope that is the case but it seems to be more than that.

    Oh man

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    So this is just the standard training camp deal they hand out every year to 3-4 wannabees that we never hear of again. Now that makes a lot more sense!
    It could be. Or it could be partially guaranteed. Sometimes players sign 2year partially guaranteed contracts that guarantee them a specific amount (50K, 150K, whatever) no matter when they get cut. If gives the team the rights to them and it give the players a little bit of cash.

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    This guy put up decent stats in the Aussie basketball league ... which is perhaps the worst basketball league in the world (No offense, mates).
    No offence taken from me, at least anyway.

    I would wholeheartedly agree with you on that statement - the NBL is so bad here, it barely even gets a mention on the local news (Its all about the AFL, Tennis, Swimming).

    Heck, i beat one of the Perth teams '3 point shooters' in a 3pt compe ion. Easily. When i was 14. And i'm not a great Basketball player!

    The first news i remember hearing about the NBA in Perth in ages is that Bogut went #1. And then the follow up stories from Gaze, Longley etc saying he should shut his mouth.

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    It sounds like the deal that I believe Romain Sato got. It probably indicates more than just a training camp invite if some money was guaranteed. The article makes it sound like him going to the NBA is definite.

    I suppose this is the long 3 and roster spot #15 if neither team matches. He's a practice guy.

    Tony, Beno Jacque
    Manu, Bruce, Michael, Brent, Melzer, Williams
    Tim, Rob, Fabricio, Bonner, Fransciso, Butler

    Although I will not be the least bit surprised if Williams gets bought out if he can't be traded by training camp. And- they will continue to try to trade Brent.

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    Those are last year's numbers.

    I already posted the link to his games in Orlando this year. They are talking about the Orlando summer league 2006, not LV summer league 2005.


    yeah. I'm almost up to speed. I might just go back to sleep where I am bound to have nightmares after what I have just witnessed

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    Strengths: Polished offensive player with the ability to step back and shoot or take it strong and draw fouls.

    source: NBA Draft Profile

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    nothing against the kid but hopefully this is part of that "huge" 6 team trade (or whatever it is).... maybe someone wanted him.

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    No offence taken from me, at least anyway.

    I would wholeheartedly agree with you on that statement - the NBL is so bad here, it barely even gets a mention on the local news (Its all about the AFL, Tennis, Swimming).

    Heck, i beat one of the Perth teams '3 point shooters' in a 3pt compe ion. Easily. When i was 14. And i'm not a great Basketball player!

    The first news i remember hearing about the NBA in Perth in ages is that Bogut went #1. And then the follow up stories from Gaze, Longley etc saying he should shut his mouth.
    in melbourne when the tigers were in the finals last season, they got alot of media publicity, and andrew gaze was mainly on everyweek givin his tips. but still nbl is n , they are tryin to make it like soccer, not free to air , tryin to protect the sport, the sport will not improve if its not free to air. The reason basketball or nbl not doin so well is probaly because ever since the pull the plug on nba action on the weekends, thats when nbl went down hill.

    Now with the new media laws comin in, the free to air tv stations all get an extra channel each, imo which is good, but then again it depends on what programs and sports they goin to show, hopefully nba though. i dont care even if they show one game that was 2 weeks old, better than nothing, we were usually a week or 2 behind on nba action.

    back to the topic, TANK SEASON.

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    So the Spurs sign a guy to develop and hes a long three.

    Probobly a minimum contract.

    Whats wrong with this?


    God you peeps look for anything to ing about.

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    So the Spurs sign a guy to develop and hes a long three.

    Probobly a minimum contract.

    Whats wrong with this?


    God you peeps look for anything to ing about.
    PMS man

    seriously so now our backup pg is fixed, if his the answer for the long 3 we are lookin for....then wattabout the backup center position that needs to filled atm, n knicks better not match the offer and waste butler on the bench like JJ.

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    if his the answer for the long 3 we are lookin for
    I doubt he is.

    Im sure he will play in salt lake city with the others along with Mahinmi.


    Vaughn is the third string PG, not the back up.

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    i think i mite change my views on him, since his not NZ , BUT STILL he plays on a one man team in a NBL

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    1. What does Sean Marks have to say?

    2. Could be Tayshaun Prince in the making?

    3. Did we ever around like this when the Spurs drafted an unknown Ginobili?

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    Sean Marks must be resigned.

    He can start!

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    Ok, I've seen this guy play live and on TV.

    He was a bit of a brat on the court, arguing with the referees and whinging. Jacked up a lot of shots and didnt play in the team concept. Didn't seem to be a great shooter at all, even by NBL standards. Didn't stand out with his ball handling or passing. Was a good rebounder, but he was rebounding against my Perth team who are terrible on the boards. His main advantage in NBL was his size and athleticism, which is obviously negated once he makes the leap to the NBA. Defensively he didn't seem anything to worry about, certainly didn't stand out on the court at all and his team lacked any type of cohesion on the court. He definitly wasn't anything like the 'Kobe' of the NBL.

    Really amazing to me that he would get a look at the NBA, absolutely baffling actually. Maybe he has worked really hard over the offseason or maybe he was half assing it in the NBL, but dude was merely a 'good' player in the NBL, which doesn't make you guaranteed contract NBA material.

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    Wow, thats depressing news (if true) on 2 fronts. I was at a couple of Breakers home games last season and losing Melzer is going to dump us back to the bottom of the table again. And I don't see him doing much for the Spurs at all either. It's hard to imagine how his game will even translate as the leagues are chalk&cheese (and that's being nice). Melzer was our main offensive weapon but I can't imagine the Spurs want him for that. He's a decent defender but anyone would look decent defensively on the Breakers. This is simply astounding, I really wonder if it's even true.
    tell me - is coach Andrej Slovenian or Croatian?

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    The only thing I remember about this guy is "who is making all those shots" -- but we won so I didn't wonder about it too much.

    It's gotta be a make-good contract.

    Unclench.

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    It could be a 2-year unguaranteed deal, which means that no money is guaranteed at all unless he is still on the team in January. Then if he is, the rest of this season is guaranteed and the following season would be a team option.

    When players come to training camp in the fall, they all sign 2-year unguaranteed deals.
    All i can say is I HOPE thats the case!

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    That's the ONLY case.

    It's all good. We're just making sure this guy shows up in Utah.

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    Personally I like Erik Daniels on the Orlando SL team -- just a better all around player and younger.

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