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    just take an example :

    Mavs had Finley with a bad contract : they waived him =>
    Cost for Mavs : nothing
    Cost for Cuban : $50M

    Spurs had Rose with a bad contract : they trade him =>
    Cost for Spurs : 2 first rounders
    Cost for Holt : nothing


    The fact that Cuban spend way more money than holt give an edge to Mavs.

    Don't forget too that taking TAW bad contract allow mavs to get NVE.

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    Don't forget too that taking TAW bad contract allow mavs to get NVE.

    Thats the key, the Mavs have pulled the trigger on trades that all is not perfict in. They take the gamble on a bad contract to get what they feel they need. The Spurs seem to be almost "gun shy" when it comes to making trades for players that can really make a differance.

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    Thats the key, the Mavs have pulled the trigger on trades that all is not perfict in. They take the gamble on a bad contract to get what they feel they need. The Spurs seem to be almost "gun shy" when it comes to making trades for players that can really make a differance.
    That's the key, the Mavs have pulled the trigger on trades where they get some bad contracts and a talent upgrade because Cuban was able to take these bad contracts.

    You see now what "spending hand over fist" has allowed to do.

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    But we are not "spending" we trade those bad ones to someone else Only with Finley were we left holding the bag. We traded Juwan Howard and Lafranz contracts for more talent after each spent little time with us.

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    But we are not "spending" we trade those bad ones to someone else Only with Finley were we left holding the bag. We traded Juwan Howard and Lafranz contracts for more talent after each spent little time with us.
    Check the facts :
    Juwan howard wasn't really a bad contract when you traded him (only 1 1/2 years left on his contract) and when you get Lafrentz, he was an expiring (Dallas gave him later a big contract).

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    Decent signing. Not bad for the minimum.

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    Thanks for the solid addition to the topic...

    Hey moron...you went off on the tangent. And I'm quite sure you have no idea what we have 3 of and you have none of.

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    Speaking of George....George Gervin was my favorite basketball player when I was a kid, and even though I knew nothing about country music I liked George Jones songs because they always told a story.

    Imagine that for a minute, George Gervin was my favorite ball player, I liked George Jones songs, and now the Mavs sign a guy named George. Unfreaking believable.

    Add to that the fact that George Washington not only was the first president of the United States, but he also is on the one dollar bill, and, well, it just starts getting spooky.

    Now that I think of it I dated a Georgette in high school and I once drove through George-i-a on my way to Florida, and suddenly I'm really scared.

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    he may suck but who's the spurs' backup small forward? larry kenon is it too late?

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    Still cannot beat the Spurs.

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    finley horry n Barry are backup forwards and Oberto

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    Cuban was on the radio the other day and they asked him if he made money on the Mavs last year...Cuban just laughed and said not even close...

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    Speaking of George....George Gervin was my favorite basketball player when I was a kid, and even though I knew nothing about country music I liked George Jones songs because they always told a story.

    Imagine that for a minute, George Gervin was my favorite ball player, I liked George Jones songs, and now the Mavs sign a guy named George. Unfreaking believable.

    Add to that the fact that George Washington not only was the first president of the United States, but he also is on the one dollar bill, and, well, it just starts getting spooky.

    Now that I think of it I dated a Georgette in high school and I once drove through George-i-a on my way to Florida, and suddenly I'm really scared.

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    The deal isn't done yet.

    George offered contract

    The Mavs have offered free-agent small forward Devean George a one-year, $2 million contract, sources said.

    However, George's agent, Mark Bartelstein, said he's still exploring other options, including Phoenix, New Jersey and Cleveland. Bartelstein said there's no firm timeline to
    complete a deal.

    George has played all seven of his NBA seasons with the Lakers.

    Earlier this summer, the Mavs signed free-agent swingman Greg Buckner to a five-year contract worth -- including incentives -- $19 million. Buckner's first-year salary of $3.2 million covered a huge chunk of the $5.2 million mid-level exception, and the remaining $2 million was offered to George.

    http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/ba...l/15125236.htm

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    Hypocrits!!

    If I'm not mistaken the spurs were interested in signing him not too long ago...

    And btw the Mavs are going to the Finals again...
    first of all its "Hypocrites"

    secondly, this year was probably the best time for the mavs to have won the le. i really don't see them going back or winning one for a while. there's going to be way too many good teams in the mix other than the spurs. should be fun.

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    first of all its "Hypocrites"

    secondly, this year was probably the best time for the mavs to have won the le. i really don't see them going back or winning one for a while. there's going to be way too many good teams in the mix other than the spurs. should be fun.
    What other good teams will be in the mix other than the Spurs, Suns & Heat? Clippers are becoming a really good team but still aren't as good as any of these teams. Rockets have some upside if they stay healthy. I suppose the Kings will be better but still not a top 3 team in the west. Nobody in the east other than the Heat looks to be ready to contend for a le just yet. I'm confident that the NBA champ next season will be either the Mavs, Spurs, Suns or Heat. Nothings really changed from last season. In fact, the Pistons are probably out of the mix with the loss of Ben Wallace (this is yet to be seen and I could be wrong) which makes this season even more ripe for the Mavs, Spurs, Suns or Heat to win the le.

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    Bulls will be interesting this year and a in the future with the Knicks' pick in '07.

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    Some expert analysis on the George signing...

    George sucks... I would have personally shot Peter Holt or RC had they signed him for anything more than a big mac.
    George should have retired after shaq left. He is a waste of bench space
    George is ok. He'll play for Dallas about as much as he would've for us. Not much.
    Ok all together now "Who cares?"
    Seriously George is a piece of , I welcome his presence on the Mavs if it takes shots away from any of their other players. The guy hasn't hit a jumpshot in over 2 years and isn't a great defender, so I say good luck with that.
    Good stuff...

    here's a valid point though...

    Well, remembering how much he cried about officiating when he played for the Lakers, and seeing how much Dirk and Cuban cried in the playoffs, he'll fit right in.
    George DEFINITELY whines too much...that annoys me...

    They were the 05 06 version of the 93 94 Phoenix Suns.


    Yea, things definitely aren't going too well this season for the Mavs...

    Spurs don't need alot of change. Between Tim, Tony, Manu, and Bruce we will win 55 to 60 games like we do every year. We already have the core to go all the way. The Mavs on the other hand had once-in-a-career games from 2 or 3 players and beat the Spurs to advance.

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    The season's not over yet, and you already got banned for doing this in the playoffs last year.

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    The season's not over yet, and you already got banned for doing this in the playoffs last year.
    I got banned for pulling up random Dirk threads (7 or 8) at the same time...

    Discussing George's signing at this point in the season seems to be a legit topic to me

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    I got banned for pulling up random Dirk threads (7 or 8) at the same time...

    Discussing George's signing at this point in the season seems to be a legit topic to me

    So do it in the NBA forum, which you did, because no Spursfan will know anything about George's progress nor will they care

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    Trainwreck, don't sell Spurs fans short please. Many of us are basketball fans, not just Spurs fans.

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    Leonard, what's your main point here? That since Devean started at the 2 last night and he's earned more than 20 min./game, that he's the X-Factor now or what?

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    Let's just start bumping every old thread shall we?!!








    George is a big goober.

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    Leonard, what's your main point here? That since Devean started at the 2 last night and he's earned more than 20 min./game, that he's the X-Factor now or what?
    Has nothing to do with him starting last night...has everything to do with him being a huge aquisition. He HAS been the x-factor in many games...

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