Spurs to lose opener!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

That player is getting old and has a bad foot. You second best player throws himself around so much that he cannot stay healthy. The Spurs teams that won rings were all much younger and better balanced, with Duncan in his pime. Also none of the teams that the Spurs are competimg against are anything like the teams of a few years ago. The Spurs do have an established pattern now of being older and more injured and less talented. The playoffs last season and their current roster show that the Spurs are having to play a different style than before. Duncan was great for seven games against the Mavs, not so hot against the Kings.

I think that all of the factors combined make any mention of past rings irrelevant to the Spurs future.

FYI, Duncan was puttin up 30's with a bad foot and now it's all healthy you should be scared.

[dougp]

those are good points. but the fact is, Duncan is older and not as good. i'll go as far as to say Nowitzki = Duncan right now. plus that was Dirks first finals, and he didnt have as good of a supporting cast as Duncan did.

some fans will bring up the "3 rings" statement just to show that Spurs history is better than the MAvs which means nothing.

but your point makes sense. you say they've won 3 rings with Duncan which means Duncan can win championships. i agree he can, but i think he is getting older and worse. he is getting injured a lot.

You obviously missed the WCF this year then ...

Dirk
DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG 3P FT STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
5/7 @Sas L 87-85 42 8-20 0-1 4-6 2 0 2 2 4 10 14 0 20
5/9 @Sas W 113-91 38 7-11 0-2 7-7 3 0 3 4 0 9 9 1 21
5/13 Sas W 104-103 43 3-9 0-0 21-24 1 1 3 2 4 11 15 3 27
5/15 Sas W 123-118 47 7-12 0-1 14-15 0 1 6 4 0 9 9 3 28
5/17 @Sas L 98-97 44 13-22 1-2 4-4 2 0 4 4 1 9 10 4 31
5/19 Sas L 91-86 46 9-16 0-1 8-8 1 0 3 1 2 19 21 5 26
5/22 @Sas W 119-111 50 11-20 0-1 15-16 1 1 0 3 2 13 15 3 37

Timmy
DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG 3P FT STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
5/7 Dal W 87-85 41 12-24 0-0 7-12 1 2 4 3 5 8 13 4 31
5/9 Dal L 113-91 35 8-10 0-0 12-14 1 4 4 4 2 7 9 3 28
5/13 @Dal L 104-103 41 15-23 0-1 5-8 1 2 1 6 3 9 12 2 35
5/15 @Dal L 123-118 47 12-23 0-0 7-8 1 3 3 4 2 11 13 6 31
5/17 Dal W 98-97 44 13-19 0-0 10-15 1 3 3 2 4 8 12 4 36
5/19 @Dal W 91-86 33 8-21 0-0 8-10 1 1 3 5 2 6 8 1 24
5/22 Dal L 119-111 50 12-24 0-1 17-23 1 3 3 4 6 9 15 6 41

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Duncan 41 points 15 boards 5 assists

9 blocks

[JGrice02]

yep this is just showing. i've seen it in every thread. you guys talk about HISTORY you guys know you arent the best in the West anymore, so you pull up "3 rings" every time which is long gone and dead. fact is PHX, LA, DAL are all better than you are, and once Duncan retires. hah you guys are really done for a long time. sorry but we'll be winning championships in the process

You obviously struggle with the definition of the word FACT. Whatever makes you feel better...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I think that the game will be a blow-out, I am leaning toward a Spurs blow-out but with an excited crowd I would not rule out a Mavs blow-out.

Tough call, I will say Spurs 94-80

Now this guy gots balls! Even if he is a Mav fan he is admitting that they have a bad chance at winning. Although I don't expect anybody else to pick the Spurs too, but at least he didn't add an insult. Biggie Props!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Your O'Brien Trophy case:

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

COLD!

Uh, yeah they do. So do the 3 trophies and 3 championship banners hanging in our arena. You'll understand once you have one.

[shaggy17]

You're a complete dumbass. The mavs will be back in contention next season for sure. To say they will have to be lucky to get back is rediculous. They have just as good or better chance than anyone else.

Reread my post. I did say they would stay in contention but in a very brief way. . And why is it insane to say they will be lucky to get back? You cant beat a healthy suns team and you nearly went 7 games against a depleted suns team. You better pray teams dont foul Dirk hard on his ass or you guys will be screwed. The pretty boy all star cant handle physical contact. Also like I said alot of bull will have to fall in place for you guys to have a great chance to go back (bs questionable fouls late in games and injuries).

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Reread my post. I did say they would stay in contention but in a very brief way. . And why is it insane to say they will be lucky to get back? You cant beat a healthy suns team and you nearly went 7 games against a depleted suns team. You better pray teams dont foul Dirk hard on his ass or you guys will be screwed. The pretty boy all star cant handle physical contact. Also like I said alot of bull will have to fall in place for you guys to have a great chance to go back (bs questionable fouls late in games and injuries).

two things to say:

1. "a depleted suns team" i dont think so. they lost Amare. is that depleted? maybe, but when he tried to come back for 3 games they were a lot worse. so depleted is not a good word.

2. "Dirk cant handle physical contact" he does flop a lot but thats just to get the calls (like in soccer). he never gets injured and plays plenty of minutes, so its not like he's avoiding it.

later

[shaggy17]

two things to say:

1. "a depleted suns team" i dont think so. they lost Amare. is that depleted? maybe, but when he tried to come back for 3 games they were a lot worse. so depleted is not a good word.

2. "Dirk cant handle physical contact" he does flop a lot but thats just to get the calls (like in soccer). he never gets injured and plays plenty of minutes, so its not like he's avoiding it.

later

1.) Amare wasnt the only Sun out. Kurt Thomas was out the ENTIRE playoffs and Raja Bell was basically on 1 leg that entire series with that strained hamstring. They were depelted on size pretty much the entire season. They had to use Diaw at Center and go really really small.

2.)Rewatch the finals when Zo,Shaq,Haslem etc put him on his ass hard. It really messed up his game and put fear in him. The way to handle Dirk is the Riley ball method. Since they are calling anything a foul, knock the crap out of him or any maverick hard on their ass to at least make something of it.

[LEONARD]

dude if you have been followering the last 10 games between them
they have split them
it is spurs turn to win

SPURS WILL OWN THE MAVS

I've only been a Mavs fan for the past 11 games, and it's 6-5 Mavs...

http://www.bobanddan.com/contact/apr...scoreboard.mp3

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

2.)Rewatch the finals when Zo,Shaq,Haslem etc put him on his ass hard. It really messed up his game and put fear in him. The way to handle Dirk is the Riley ball method. Since they are calling anything a foul, knock the crap out of him or any maverick hard on their ass to at least make something of it.

actually to be honest i didnt see any of the Finals i was on vacation overseas so you got me there.

i was going by what i saw since he became a Maverick

[FromWayDowntown]

I've only been a Mavs fan for the past 11 games . . . .

which puts you among the longest-tenured Mavs fans.

[confined]

Reread my post. I did say they would stay in contention but in a very brief way. . And why is it insane to say they will be lucky to get back? You cant beat a healthy suns team and you nearly went 7 games against a depleted suns team. You better pray teams dont foul Dirk hard on his ass or you guys will be screwed. The pretty boy all star cant handle physical contact. Also like I said alot of bull will have to fall in place for you guys to have a great chance to go back (bs questionable fouls late in games and injuries).

so i guess what ur sayin is that the spurs have a better chance?...ummmm how bout no?...ur team couldnt beat us last year and no uve gotten WORSE?!
and we've gotten BETTER...be real man...u can only hope that duncan will be back to form...

o and about the pretty boy ....yeah ok at least dirk doesnt go to the refs after every call against him and act like he did nothing...duncan and his whinny little voice is as annoying as ...dont give me this

[Mavs_man_41]

Reread my post. I did say they would stay in contention but in a very brief way. . And why is it insane to say they will be lucky to get back? You cant beat a healthy suns team and you nearly went 7 games against a depleted suns team. You better pray teams dont foul Dirk hard on his ass or you guys will be screwed. The pretty boy all star cant handle physical contact. Also like I said alot of bull will have to fall in place for you guys to have a great chance to go back (bs questionable fouls late in games and injuries).

Sorry but i have to disagree. The mavericks have proved that they are legit contenders even though they didnt win it all. They probably have the deepest bench in the league right now and should be even better next season. "Alot of bull " wont have to happen for them to get back next year. All they have to do is play to their potential and they will be right back in contention next year come playoff time.

[ShoogarBear]

which puts you among the longest-tenured Mavs fans.

Too easy, Drill Sergeant, too easy!

[dbestpro]

It should be quite exciting for Dallas. The fans will be going crazy. The music and lights will be kicking. Then slowly and under great fanfair the Mav's will host their Western Conference Championship Banner.

The Spurs players will all look on in amazement. Bruce will lean over to Tim and say, "What is that?" Tim will reply, "You know, we got those too. You just can't see them cause they're hidden behind all of our champioship banners."

[ShoogarBear]

And can you imagine the looks of envy as the Spurs are forced to stand there and watch Deputy Comissioner Adam Silver hand out the Western Conference Championship rings to the Mavs.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

so i guess what ur sayin is that the spurs have a better chance?...ummmm how bout no?...ur team couldnt beat us last year and no uve gotten WORSE?!
and we've gotten BETTER...be real man...u can only hope that duncan will be back to form...

o and about the pretty boy ....yeah ok at least dirk doesnt go to the refs after every call against him and act like he did nothing...duncan and his whinny little voice is as annoying as ...dont give me this

The only good thing that happened that was good was that you got Anthony Johnson. You got the bad end of the Daniels/Croshere trade. The Butler/Elson combo will be better than the Rasho/Nazr combo. And Duncan will be better because he will be cured from his plantar facseaitis. When he had it he was putting 30 points on y'all and now that he is healthy? You better be scared!
Before: 30 ppg 13 rpg
After: 40ppg 20rpg? I don't know, but those numbers WILL be higher.

And now that he is better he will be faster and just might be able to guard Nowitzki. And while Duncan is reducing Nowitzki's numbers, Bowen will put the clamp on Terry or Howard while Manu guards the other. So then you will be able to go to then? Dampier? Give me a break! Tell me. How exactly did y'all get better while we got worse?

Mavs:
Out:
Van Horn-A PF/SF Who occasionally knocks down some 3's
Armstrong-A solid PG for his age
Powell-A young PF who has potential
Marshall A young G/F who has a some potential.
In:
Johnson-In his 30's but can score somewhat 5-10 ppg
Croshere-Just like Van Horn
You practically got the same people. A little improvement

Spurs:
Out:
Van Exel-An old PG who declined a lot while in the Spurs.
Nazr-A solid center who can put up 5 ppg 5 rpg but can't catch or pass.
Rasho-A center with a jumpshot but is one of the softest.
Marks-A solid player for someone who is on the IR.
In:
Bonner-Like Van Horn
Butler-A young center with a lot of potential who can score, pass, and catch. But has to work a little more on defense.
Elson-Just like Nazr.
Williams-A good SF that plays defense and can occasionally score double figures. Will most liekly back up Bowen.
Vaughn-The age of Van Exel but better numbers.
That's not a lot of improvement but that is sure more than the Mavs.
So take that to the bank!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

OMFG! shaggy17 isn't a pessimist anymore! Big Props Shaggy!

[Mavs_man_41]

The only good thing that happened that was good was that you got Anthony Johnson.

That's where you're wrong. Lol where were you when the mavs drafted maurice ager? Are you a moron that cant see how bad van horn sucks? Anyone is an upgrade over van horn. Greg Buckner? was that supposedly not a good thing? Oh ya and Devean George.....spurs fans should know alot about him. He probably wont do much during the regular season, but come playoff time you will regret it when he buries big shot after big shot on your asses.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

That's where you're wrong. Lol where were you when the mavs drafted maurice ager? Are you a moron that cant see how bad van horn sucks? Anyone is an upgrade over van horn. Greg Buckner? was that supposedly not a good thing? Oh ya and Devean George.....spurs fans should know alot about him. He probably wont do much during the regular season, but come playoff time you will regret it when he buries big shot after big shot on your asses.

That's why we got this guy!

[J.T.]

Mavfan, you understand the paradox of having Devean George and "burying big shot after big shot" in the same sentence, yes?

[johngateswhiteley]

which puts you among the longest-tenured Mavs fans.

outstanding work.

[Mavs_man_41]

Mavfan, you understand the paradox of having Devean George and "burying big shot after big shot" in the same sentence, yes?

Deavean George has always been known to make big shots against the spurs, it doesnt matter what he does during the regular season because he won't be heavily relied on.