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    ahhh random... yes 60 minutes is a such a right wing rag.... lol
    actually, dip , I was referring to the william tate op-ed peice you quoted. I had hoped that bit was clear.

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    Democrats are majoring on the minor issues (Walmarts) and minoring on the major issues (Terrorism) -Jack Kelly-



    Judicial impropriety


    JUDGE Anna Diggs Taylor illustrates why Democrats cannot be trusted with political power in time of war.

    Judge Taylor, who is the chief judge of the federal district court in Detroit, ruled Aug. 17 that it is uncons utional for the National Security Agency to listen in, without warrants, on telephone conversations between terror suspects abroad and people in the United States.

    Her ruling was praised by Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, and other prominent Democrats.

    "With a careful, thoroughly grounded opinion, one judge in Michigan has done what 535 members of Congress have so abysmally failed to do," the New York Times gushed in an editorial Aug. 18.

    But the Times was pretty much alone in its opinion that Judge Taylor's decision was "careful" and "thoroughly grounded." (surprise)

    In its editorial the same day, the Washington Post said Judge Diggs' decision "is neither careful nor scholarly, and is hard-hitting only in the sense that a bludgeon is hard-hitting."

    "There is poor reasoning, and then there is head-spinningly, jaw droppingly poor reasoning," said the Washington Times.

    By Aug. 20, the New York Times was backtracking. "Even legal experts who agreed with a federal judge's conclusion on Thursday that a National Security Agency surveillance program is unlawful were distancing themselves from the decision's reasoning and rhetoric yesterday," wrote the Times' Adam Liptak in a news story.

    On Wednesday, the Times published an op-ed by University of Wisconsin law professor Ann Althouse which described Judge Taylor as "a law unto herself."

    "For those who approve the outcome, the judge's opinion is counterproductive," Ms. Althouse said. "It will be harder to defend upon appeal than a more careful decision. It suggests there are no good legal arguments against the program, just petulance and outrage and antipathy toward President Bush."

    Activist judges like Ms. Taylor who attempt to impose their political views by fiat pose a significant danger to the cons utional separation of powers, Ms. Althouse said.

    The Times' discomfort increased when Judicial Watch discovered that Judge Taylor served on the board of a foundation which gave $125,000 to the Michigan ACLU, the lead plaintiff in the case, and did not disclose this apparent conflict of interest. (such integrity)

    "Judge Taylor's role at a grant-making foundation whose list of beneficiaries includes groups that regularly litigate in the courts is … disquieting," the Times acknowledged in an editorial Thursday.

    This wasn't Judge Taylor's first brush with judicial impropriety. In 1998, she tried to take from Judge Bernard Friedman (who'd been awarded it on the customary blind draw), the case concerning affirmative action policies at the University of Michigan's law school. She gave up the attempt when Judge Friedman complained loudly, in public.

    Even if Judge Taylor had been awarded the case in the blind draw, it would have been improper for her to hear it, because her husband is a regent at the University of Michigan.

    Judge Taylor was appointed to the federal bench by Jimmy Carter in 1979. Her cavalier at ude toward conflict of interest rules, and her tendency to use her position to impose by fiat her political views regardless of what the law says are, alas, not rare among Carter and Clinton appointees to the federal bench.

    Judge Taylor's excesses are not likely, in this instance, to harm the republic. Indeed, her atrocious reasoning behind a decision shaky on the merits increases the high likelihood it will be overturned on appeal.

    Of more significance is what the uncritical embrace by Democrats of Judge Taylor's decision portends for Democrats. (poor reasoning and even the truth pose no obstacle to democrats who readily jump on every bandwagon that rails against the President).

    We suffered on Sept. 11, 2001, the most devastating attack ever on our soil. It likely would have been repeated this month, were it not for the program Judge Taylor wants to terminate.

    President Bush has made mistakes in his conduct of the war on terror. But thanks in part to Judge Taylor's ruling, voters this November will be asking themselves whether they would rather be governed by a political party that thinks Islamic terror is the greatest threat to Americans, or by a political party which is more concerned about Wal-Mart.

    I don't think Democrats will like their answer.

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    Oh just quit whining and appeal.

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    Oh just quit owning Judge Taylor and the liberals and appeal.
    Fixed it for ya.

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    Nah, it's whining.

    What has really happened?

    Nothing.

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    The reasoning in this case maybe questionable, but for the first time it puts the ball in the administration's court to answer why it needs to cir vent FISA law in domestic intelligence surveillance cases, a point the administration has never wanted to clearly elaborate on before.

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    Again, Echelon was and is still different from what Bush was doing, which was taking it one step farther than the law allows.

    I still am a bit uncomfortable with what I have read of Echelon as well. The clinton-bashers still haven't fessed up that it wasn't Clinton who created Echelon...

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    Activist judges like Ms. Taylor who attempt to impose their political views by fiat pose a significant danger to the cons utional separation of powers, Ms. Althouse said.

    ...

    "Judge Taylor's role at a grant-making foundation whose list of beneficiaries includes groups that regularly litigate in the courts is … disquieting," the Times acknowledged in an editorial Thursday.
    I think you point out one of the strengths of the "liberal media" that really differentiate it from the "conservative" media.

    Liberal media actually will give some space to opposing opinions.

    Anybody care to take a guess as to when Fox news might give a liberal commentator a show?

    Anybody care to take a guess as to when Rush Limbaugh will give more than 10 seconds to anybody who might disagree with him in any meaningful way?

    Simply doesn't happen. That is the real danger from the conservative movement in the US in my opinion. The liberal media myth is simply another tool used in an attempt to genize what you hear into one-sided pablum.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 08-28-2006 at 08:57 AM. Reason: (edited a typo, added content)

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