And, yet, the appeasing whiners of the world...

[ChumpDumper]

Explain to me what your point is Chump (in more than one line, please) because I have thought hard and I don't see it.

You are against the war in Iraq but you sponsor a war against Saudi Arabia because that's where most of the 9/11 terrorists come from?

By the way, OBL is also from SA (another reason to attack that kingdom, tright?)

Invasion was hyperbole, but SA and most definitely Pakistan are not free of connections to AQ. Of course our presence in SA was half the problem Bin Laden had with the US, but the main point is that Arabian/Muslim sympathies toward the US were at their zenith immediately after 9/11, and the Bush administration had critical choices to make about how to turn that will into cooperation. Afghanistan was a good choice. Iraq was a disasterous choice and evaporated the remaining goodwill of the general populations in places like Pakistan and SA, severely restricting our options for operations in those countries (military or otherwise) and making us dependent on the despots in control of those countries whose best interest may just lie in appeasing or coexisting with the terrorists. The latest reports out of Pakistan suggest just that.

[Yonivore]

Isreal occupies Lebanese soil know was Shebaa Farms in the Golan.

No. I was asking about Hezbollah land. Lebanon didn't attack Israel.

Oh yeah. And, instruct the rest of us, if you would Manny, exactly what were the cir stances under which Israel came to occupy Shebaa Farms, The West Bank, The Golan Heights, and The Gaza Strip?