Lebron destroys TD...

[turambar85]

All this fingerpointing at the other for being macho just so you could go unchallenged saying that LJ shattered Duncan because of a dunk.

Wow, this subect should make for a good Doctoral dissertation,.....ass!

No, if you could manage to keep up you would know that the entire purpose of mentioning the dunk was to produce that point, not that the entire purpose of the point was to get people off my back about the dunk.

I couldn't give a about Timmy Duncan getting posterized by Lebron. It happens everyday. I wanted to prove a point about ignorant tribal alliances with professional teams, and it worked.

And, no, hardly for a good doctoral disseration. Perhaps a solid essay, but nothing more!

[DirkAB]

I'm done with this because I think we've reached an impasse - you referred to the Lakers over the history of the NBA when I was strictly discussing this decade, which indicates to me you would prefer to move the goalposts - but Jerry West got Kobe Bryant handed to him when Kobe Bryant made it clear before the draft that he wouldn't play in Charlotte. People act like Charlotte got fleeced, but in reality Kobe wasn't going to play a minute there. He was Steve Francis before Steve Francis sulked and pouted away from Vancouver.

BTW, West signing Shaq was a real coup. Who knew Shaq was any good, anyway? Yep, ol' West really pulled the wool over the NBA there.

Now West isn't a good GM? If that is what you're implying then I'd say you're on quite a roll.

You never responded to the part about the Patriots. Because of your lack of a response am I to believe that you are conceding that they have been a better team and organization than the Spurs?

You also never answered if the Lakers missing the playoffs more than negates an extra ring and another finals appearance. I don't see how it could, unless you are completely bias.

The only reason that I referenced the Lakers before this decade is because this comment:

Because, after all, good organizations make a habit out of missing the playoffs.

My referencing the past 30 years is to make the point that the Lakers have never made a habit out of missing the playoffs.

Just admit it, you're wrong.

[dav4463]

Duncan gets dunked on....big deal.

Maverick thugs (Stackhouse) would've tried to hurt him. Tim knew he was beat, no reason to foul LeBron hard on that play. Duncan has class. A "real man" knows that on some plays, you just get beat. You don't have to push somebody down (Howard), or punch them in the balls (Terry).....get the picture? Play with class. Win championships with class. That's the way I like to see it done.

[dav4463]

If you go by winning percentage in the 2000's...he would be correct.

Since Tim Duncan has been in the league, the Spurs have the highest winning percentage of any team in any sport over that time. Look it up.

[Fillmoe]

i should gif it

[lefty]

Even the light-weight sports snippets on CNN had the clip of LeBron dunking on Tim, including the ending bit where Tim turns, stumbles and falls to the floor like KO'd boxer. They also referred to Tim as "the former MVP".

Along with Tim's FTs, this video will be pinned to Tim's rep forever.

It would have helped if Tim hadn't sucked hind for 3 qtrs and the Spurs had won the game, letting James have his fun and a loss.

CNN? wow, what a reference!!!

Everybody will see who the MVP is.... a healthy Duncan will teach CNN one thing or two about basketball
See u in June, CNN

[samikeyp]

Tim is a former MVP....how is that a slight?

[lefty]

We'll see in june who the best player is

By the way, one question about your signature : are those Spurs Bruce Browen and Eric Williams with 'fros ?

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Wow, anyone that thinks Duncan got "dunked on" for standing there with his hands in the air must not watch much basketball. I think David Robinson owns the record for being spectacularly posterized in the all-star game. Who ing cares? He's man enough to defend. It's more than most teams can say, which is why Duncan has rings.

[ambchang]

Tim Duncan actually got "dunked on" on purpose just so that he can get a reaction out of people who think they are superior to other sports fanatical cave-men. He said he wanted to prove a point about ignorant tribal alliances with personal philosophical views.

[turambar85]

Tim Duncan actually got "dunked on" on purpose just so that he can get a reaction out of people who think they are superior to other sports fanatical cave-men. He said he wanted to prove a point about ignorant tribal alliances with personal philosophical views.

Thank God, somebody finally understands!

[ambchang]

Thank God, somebody finally understands!

I am glad you took the sarcasm well, but dude, everybody understands. Somebody put heavy emphasis on their favourite sports team's success and failure because that is their priority, some people do it for their favourite rock stars, some one on their political affiliation, and some on their beliefs, none is superior to others.

[turambar85]

I am glad you took the sarcasm well, but dude, everybody understands. Somebody put heavy emphasis on their favourite sports team's success and failure because that is their priority, some people do it for their favourite rock stars, some one on their political affiliation, and some on their beliefs, none is superior to others.

Congrats on completely missing the point. The problem is not people who like certain teams, but people like the fans here at UT who get angry and aggressive. Pre-human jackasses who scream and curse at the players on the opposing teams, and people who get mad at people who speak ill of Timmy Duncan.

[ambchang]

Congrats on completely missing the point. The problem is not people who like certain teams, but people like the fans here at UT who get angry and aggressive. Pre-human jackasses who scream and curse at the players on the opposing teams, and people who get mad at people who speak ill of Timmy Duncan.

I miss it because I am not prepared to label people I have never met in real life by other people I have met who I think may be similar.

[DirkAB]

If you go by winning percentage in the 2000's...he would be correct.

Winning percentage isn't the measuring stick, championships is the primary basis for judging that. I would think that fans of a team that prides themselves on championship rings, and rightfuly so, would get this. Regular season wins mean jack , take it from a Kings fan, we're pracically experts on the subject.

[samikeyp]

Winning percentage isn't the measuring stick, championships is the primary basis for judging that

In your opinion. Maybe he was talking about total wins as well as les. Maybe he had something else as his criteria. There is no official, set in stone, all-encompassing criteria established to determine success. Its all subjective. The closest thing to fact is total wins but that is still debateable as a measuring stick.

(back to the topic here)
LeBron didn't destroy Duncan, he dunked on him. To destroy is to complete remove something from existance. If Tim had retired after that play maybe...strangely enough...he is still out there.

[DirkAB]

In your opinion. Maybe he was talking about total wins as well as les. Maybe he had something else as his criteria. There is no official, set in stone, all-encompassing criteria established to determine success. Its all subjective. The closest thing to fact is total wins but that is still debateable as a measuring stick.

(back to the topic here)
LeBron didn't destroy Duncan, he dunked on him. To destroy is to complete remove something from existance. If Tim had retired after that play maybe...strangely enough...he is still out there.

So if neither the Lakers or the Spurs won another le this decade nor missed the playoffs, which is very likely to happen, you would still consider the Spurs the better of the 2 teams over the decade? You would be happy with one less championship ring?

And on topic, in a matter of speaking dunking on somebody is destroying them.

[samikeyp]

So if neither the Lakers or the Spurs won another le this decade nor missed the playoffs, which is very likely to happen, you would still consider the Spurs the better of the 2 teams over the decade? You would be happy with one less championship ring?

no I wouldn't but my original point stands...the definition of success can be subjective.

Dunking on someone is NOT destroying someone. Tim Duncan is still alive, well and playing basketball successfully. If he had been destroyed, he would not be.

[turambar85]

I miss it because I am not prepared to label people I have never met in real life by other people I have met who I think may be similar.

There is no thinking they are similar. It is a widespread, wholesale problem. Over 1/3 of the sports fans that I know, have met, or have talked to share these insane tribal allegiances. It is evident on Spurstalk with the Bucks threads, people screaming at each other over who is best, and a general contempt for people who support different teams.

Why does it make you better to be a Spurs fan? This is the same concept that applies to ignorant nationalism. Why does it make you better to be an American, or make you proud that you are? In both cases you simply lucked out. You were born where you were born, and that is all you can say about it. You are products of your environment, and have no affiliation with the Spurs. You will never take center court for tip-off, you will never run to the locker room to share in the victory celebrations and post-game meetings. You are a fan. Plain and simple.

People need to understand this issue. It is, as I said, directly in coorelation with nationalism and its practices, and nationalism is the downfall of modern society.

[MrChug]

...If Tim had retired after that play maybe...strangely enough...he is still out there.

He probably realized it didnt mean $h!t. A thought foreign to a few in this forum.

[samikeyp]

He probably realized it didnt mean $h!t. A thought foreign to a few in this forum

I would agree...it was a great play no doubt but it was one play. Players get dunked on all the time, its happened to LeBron and it will happen again like it will to Tim and Tim will get someone to. If that single play had won the game or a le, ok. Its a sign of the newer generation of player and fan that cares more about individual highlights than anything else.

[ambchang]

There is no thinking they are similar. It is a widespread, wholesale problem. Over 1/3 of the sports fans that I know, have met, or have talked to share these insane tribal allegiances. It is evident on Spurstalk with the Bucks threads, people screaming at each other over who is best, and a general contempt for people who support different teams.

Why does it make you better to be a Spurs fan? This is the same concept that applies to ignorant nationalism. Why does it make you better to be an American, or make you proud that you are? In both cases you simply lucked out. You were born where you were born, and that is all you can say about it. You are products of your environment, and have no affiliation with the Spurs. You will never take center court for tip-off, you will never run to the locker room to share in the victory celebrations and post-game meetings. You are a fan. Plain and simple.

People need to understand this issue. It is, as I said, directly in coorelation with nationalism and its practices, and nationalism is the downfall of modern society.

No need to repeat yourself, I, along with more than a few whole read this thread, got your points. My issue is, going with the same rationale, why are people who shun this tribalism be intellectually superior to those who are involved in it?

To be honest, I haven't done any statistical study as to how many sports fans are fanatical, but I would say that 1/3 probably is on the high side. In an arena of 21,000, there would be 7,000 cavemen shouting obsenities towards the opposing team, I am sure the TV mics would have picked that up.

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There is no thinking they are similar. It is a widespread, wholesale problem. Over 1/3 of the sports fans that I know, have met, or have talked to share these insane tribal allegiances. It is evident on Spurstalk with the Bucks threads, people screaming at each other over who is best, and a general contempt for people who support different teams.

Why does it make you better to be a Spurs fan? This is the same concept that applies to ignorant nationalism. Why does it make you better to be an American, or make you proud that you are? In both cases you simply lucked out. You were born where you were born, and that is all you can say about it. You are products of your environment, and have no affiliation with the Spurs. You will never take center court for tip-off, you will never run to the locker room to share in the victory celebrations and post-game meetings. You are a fan. Plain and simple.

People need to understand this issue. It is, as I said, directly in coorelation with nationalism and its practices, and nationalism is the downfall of modern society.

Stupidest. Post. Ever.

[dirk4mvp]

Lawl


How the did this thread come to be 5 pages?

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Lawl


How the did this thread come to be 5 pages?

How the did it get to some idiot talking about nationalism?