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Your momma did.
I think this is where the debate lies...who determines its dirty? The league? Us as fans? the other players? I think we have shown here that different people have different views on what is and what isn't dirty. Just because two people have differing opinions on what is dirty, doesn't mean they are wrong, just different. Unless the NBA comes out and says something....we will continue this debate.Is that dirty? Sure. I'm also sure the league pays close attention, and they haven't punished him yet, though maybe they are waiting for the right example.
Your momma did.
If Bowen was a Lakers & took out Tim Duncan I am sure all of you would just call him a “crafty” defender...
Actually Bruce has been suspended, right, for an incident with Ray-Ray last year?
No, just fined.
Bowen "criminal" past :
3/28/06
The NBA fined Bruce Bowen (SA) $10,000 for kicking Ray Allen (Sea) in the
back during Sunday's SA-Sea game.
3/2/02
The NBA fined Bruce Bowen (SA) $7,500 and assessed him a flagrant foul for
his flying kick that hit Wally Szczerbiak (Min) in the face during Friday's
SA-Min game.
and that's all.
Actually it doesn't even matter what anyone says is "dirty". That's the most subjective thing ever.
It just matters what is breaking the rules.
Maybe Bowen gets suspended on this and then they'll be a precedent for a rule.
But in past years, opponents have sent tape to the league on Bowen's "dirty" tactics over and over. And the league has basically said he's playing within the rules.
Until they say different, that's how it is.
There's a rule against punching, going for the head, etc. Until there's a specific rule that says you can't be looking the other way and sort of intentionally but maybe perhaps accidentally have your foot under where a shooter might perhaps maybe possibly land, then Bowen will just do what he does.
Of course!If Bowen was a Lakers & took out Tim Duncan I am sure all of you would just call him a “crafty” defender...
Isn't that what Kobe called him?
I am surprised the gash he put in Brent Barry's forehead in the playoffs didn't make the list.
Amazing how all these guys that Bruce hurts have no problem playing on the same team with him...hypocrites much?
Essily translated as: I don't have a problem with Bruce Bowen...unless he's guarding me.
And people must not have very much respect for Gregg Poppovich either...if Bruce was deliberately trying to hurt guys his ass would be glued to Pop's bench. Ask Kevin Willis...Pop doesn't even put up with showboating....much less injuring guys.
I guess I'll trust you two hardcore street ballas on this
If 5'2 Joe Prunty tried to fight me for supposedly putting my feet under him when he was trying to land, I think it's a pretty universally held concept. You don't give someone room to land in any level of basketball and you better expect a pissed off opponent.
Okay, that's right. He should have been suspended, though, because all he did was piss Allen off and he kicked the Spurs asses that game.
That is basically where I was going.....you put it better than I did.Actually it doesn't even matter what anyone says is "dirty". That's the most subjective thing ever.
It just matters what is breaking the rules.
Maybe Bowen gets suspended on this and then they'll be a precedent for a rule.
But in past years, opponents have sent tape to the league on Bowen's "dirty" tactics over and over. And the league has basically said he's playing within the rules.
Until they say different, that's how it is.
There's a rule against punching, going for the head, etc. Until there's a specific rule that says you can't be looking the other way and sort of intentionally but maybe perhaps accidentally have your foot under where a shooter might perhaps maybe possibly land, then Bowen will just do what he does.
Mike Please!!!!! Bowen game is to injure the opposing team’s star player & Spurs Fans Defend This?
SHHHHH!! That's a secret.Mike Please!!!!! Bowen game is to injure the opposing team’s star player & Spurs Fans Defend This?
But Kobe did say BB was the toughest defender on him.
They are giving Franchise too much credit. He sucks now and there is not need to injury the poor bas . Knicks suck w/him or w/out him
Was he crossing you over? Or why did you resort to such a dirty vile tactic?
If 5'2 Joe Prunty tried to fight me for supposedly putting my feet under him when he was trying to land, I think it's a pretty universally held concept. You don't give someone room to land in any level of basketball and you better expect a pissed off opponent.
You are better than that.
Bowen is dirty just like most of his fans
Did you do it on purpose?
If 5'2 Joe Prunty tried to fight me for supposedly putting my feet under him when he was trying to land, I think it's a pretty universally held concept. You don't give someone room to land in any level of basketball and you better expect a pissed off opponent.
You know Bowens not in that picture right?
Was he crossing you over? Or why did you resort to such a dirty vile tactic?
You are better than that.
He was just mad cuz he couldn't hit a shot on me. And yeah I probably did stick my leg under him but that was already after he had pissed me off.
Dude, you have Raja Bell on your team. If Bowen is dirty then you have to say Bell is to.
and Bell's fans.
I just notice that the guys that get pissed at him are offensive players that don't play D, of any kind, at all. They never do it because they don't contest shots.
Do they have a right to be pissed off? Yeap...Doesn't mean it's on purpose. And Bruce has a right to not give a if it pisses them off.
I remember in baseball if you bunted on Nolan Ryan you could expect a fastball in the ribs the next time up to bat....was bunting on Nolan dirty considering he had a bad back and could injure him? He seemed to think so.
Unfortuntately for him teams got sick of it and one game Tony Larussa had every guy in his lineup bunt when they went up to bat.
When Bruce gets caught doing it deliberately then you can say it's deliberate...until that time, the guys don't like being defended, that's obvious, and the fact that it pisses them off doesn't mean it's intentional. I'd just say he's more worried about making them miss the shot than he is about where they land...something for them to think about and consider when they are shooting.
hehe i just sprained my ankle yesterday landing on someones foot also
uhm... im a big spurs fan and i always liked Bruce; i never considered him dirty when watching him play (even though it is hard to notice little things when you are just watching)
BUT after watching this tape i consider Bruce at least a bit dirty (hard to use just phrase dirty as im a spurs fan)
Bruce COULD and SHOULD land in some other way
he knows very well that someone gets hurt this way from time to time and the next time he plays that player or his teammate they will have him "in their head" and they will be thinking more about landing good than actually shooting good 100%
i personally dont like whiners in basketball and i return rough play with rough play but if someone got me injured in this way i surely wouldnt have my mouth shut about it
It's not about Bruce getting caught. It's about him doing something intentional that can injure a player or jeopardize that player's career. I don't care if Bruce does it to get in a player's head. I don't care if the league doesn't suspend him. I don't care what happened in baseball. I don't care about any way you try to rationalize that crap. Bruce Bowen is dirty...period.
That implies fact, when in actuality, its an opinion.Bruce Bowen is dirty...period.
But...its one to which you are in led, but if one does not share that, doesn't make either of you wrong.
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