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That's AJ type clutch...lame.
Spurs vs. Lakers in the 2004 playoffs. Don't worry, I'll send you that DVD too.
That's AJ type clutch...lame.
Yeah when we were getting blown out by 30.
You are a masochist for saving any of those games...
I'm not talking about his Sonics days.
Championship shot clutch?
Hang that number 6.
Lame...
Edit Lame about the Sonics days.
Ok Clippers and Spurs days then.
Ok...Barry hit shots in the second half in 05 in games to eliminate the Nuggets and Suns.
And in 06 to eliminate the Kings.
I belive Messers Paul, Oden and Mahimi like to fly first class
But why didn't Barry ever get to finish a game against the Mavs? And how come Finley kept fouling people in overtime?
I still don't get what you are arguing...I said he sucked against the Mavs...I said it at the time, and you have criticized me for it...That one pass he made in one of those games killed us. But that has happened to other guys too...
As for whether or not he could have made a difference in game 7?
Well it'll always be speculation won't it? His Spurs history shows he probably would have.
But what can be confirmed is that not giving him that chance was a loss.
Did this thread postpone the grades from the Knicks game?
Way to go, hootie.
He sucked in game 7 too, give me a Break....As for whether or not he could have made a difference in game 7?
What is the question?
What former Washington Redskin number 1 draft pick just won a seat in the US Congress from the state of North Carolina?
First of all, "when you suck" to you apparently means when shots don't go in. You obviously don't think Barry sucks now, since he's making shots. How exactly is a shooter supposed to know if a shot is going to go in before he takes it, Kreskin?
How does a shot that isn't taken even have a chance to go in? The Spurs' motion offense means five guys working to get open opportunities for the shooters when the defense breaks down. Not taking the open shot is a much bigger sin than taking it and missing it.
When you are a free agent acquisition who was perennially at the top of the league in three point percentage, "when you suck" ACTUALLY means when you pass up a three pointer in the flow of the offense. If you miss it, the defenders still have to respect that you are going to pull the trigger. Once you start passing them up, they know they can collapse down on the post.
Finley takes a lot of shots, some downright Maverickian bad shots, and currently misses, but he's trying to shoot his way out of a slump. I have no problem with that, and neither should you.
Barry was in a shooting slump, too, and didn't take a lot of shots, and passed up lots of good shots. Trying to perimeter pass your way out of a shooting slump when you were signed as a sharpshooter is stupid. You typically tell a shooter to shoot when he's open, even if he's not shooting well because it's a mathematical certainty that high percentage shooters taking wide open in-the-flow shots are going to score so long as they KEEP TAKING THE SHOTS. Barry didn't, and it took him an offseason to get out of it.
How do you think Barry spent the offseason: Taking a lot of shots, or making a lot of passes?
How many open three opportunities has Barry passed up so far? I'd bet the answer is close to zero. As long as he KEEPS TAKING THEM even if they don't go in, he'll be fine.
Heath Shuler
Damn that was an entertaining read. Props to Whott and Timvp.
Should this be considered a battle blog, Kori??
Um...there's no denying he shot at a disappointing PCT(for him) but I'd point out he was just 4 or 5 3 pointers short of being a 40% 3 shooter that year.
Furthermore...it's typical for guys not used to playing D to struggle their first season here...Barry's not the first.
Additionally, the guy had never been used exclusively as a spot up shooter before, always as a combo guard, almost asways on uptempo teams that requires snappy passing even in their half court sets to get open.
It was just an adjustment...I saw Barry's struggles being when his role was reduced to just spot up shooter, due to the better than expected performance of Beno.
Point is...he did still help the team.
And lastly...yes, he still makes those WTF passes that catch his teamates off guard, in fact he made one to Elson against the Knicks...and he still looks most comfortable shooting transition threes and playing uptempo.
You notice Pop usually plays him when he's wanting to get up and down the court.
Alright, here's some actual trivia:
There were 12 Spurs on the active roster for the 1999 NBA Finals. Eleven of those Spurs played at least 1 minute in the Finals series. One did not. Who was he?
Steve Kerr?
I can't disagree with any of that. I don't even mind the WTF passes on occasion, but I will NEVER get angry at Barry for taking a wide open shot, even if it doesn't go in. That was my point. He's not apples for apples with Finley on that front.
Your point about percentage is exactly right on. He was a few passed up wide open threes from being a 40% shooter, but it's a far cry from the 45% he shot his last year in Seattle. Ray Allen, on his best day, doesn't give Brent Barry as many wide open looks as Tim Duncan does. We all knew Barry could fill it up from outside. You need only look at his percentage this year to see how damn good he is when he just lets it go!
I thought Barry played good defense, hustled and improved the team every time he was on the floor. He's also been MORE likely to hit a shot in the clutch, which is a great thing to have. The only complaint I ever had of him is that he didn't always pull the trigger, and that's only because I believe that it was due to lack of confidence.
Rasho Nesterovic
Kerr
Kerr was a backup
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