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off course he shoot only one 3pts but he can shoot only 2 FT so it's good
if TP make 2/6 for 3 you will cry if he make 1/1 you cry
you never be happy with him
OK I totally agree but tony is neeeeeeeeeeever off
there are his stats this season:
Nov 15 vs. CHA L 92-95 40 11-22 1-1 2-2 2 3 5 3 2 0 6 2 25 points
Nov 14 @ HOU W 84-92 30 4-13 0-1 0-0 0 4 4 5 0 0 1 0 8 points(this confirm that Tony is a HUMAN)
Nov 11 vs. NYK W 100-92 36 12-17 0-0 9-12 0 0 0 6 0 0 2 1 33 points
Nov 8 vs. PHX W 111-106 41 11-22 2-3 5-5 0 2 2 6 4 0 1 2 29 points
Nov 6 @ NYK W 93-105 35 11-16 2-2 0-2 0 3 3 10 0 0 3 3 24 points
Nov 5 @ TOR W 94-103 33 8-17 0-0 3-4 1 3 4 2 1 1 2 2 19 points
Nov 3 vs. CLE L 81-88 35 8-16 0-0 5-8 0 5 5 5 0 0 3 0 21 points
Nov 2 @ DAL W 91-97 34 5-11 0-1 9-12 0 2 2 3 1 0 1 3 19 points
22 shots to score 25 points? for a point guard? Tony is a GREAT player when he can penetrate and score/dish but when he cannot he looks lost. In the playoffs other teams will back off of him and not allow him to penetrate. So then what? Do we want him taking 25% of the shots still?
off course he shoot only one 3pts but he can shoot only 2 FT so it's good
if TP make 2/6 for 3 you will cry if he make 1/1 you cry
you never be happy with him
off course he shoot only one 3pts but he can shoot only 2 FT so it's good
if TP make 2/6 for 3 you will cry if he make 1/1 you cry
you never be happy with him
I want TP to be a smart player and recognize what is happening. When teams back off of him he needs to adjust his game. I will give him credit this year because I have not seen him take on 5 guys or force himself into the lane and throw up wild shots. Since Tony has the ball in his hands the majority of the time it's imperitive that he be smart with it.
So what?!!!!??what do you want him to do more with 22 shots??
Because do you think that "11 from 22 "(= 50% i'm afraid that you cannot calculate but I think this is the case
Because when you see it(can you see?):
15/54 in FG % for the rest of the team(Except TIM who is also at 50%)
that is to say that the rest of the team(Except TIM who is also at 50%) is at 28% of success
So when you see this,I really want TP taking 25% of the shoot still
YESoff course he shoot only one 3pts but he can shoot only 2 FT so it's good
if TP make 2/6 for 3 you will cry if he make 1/1 you cry
you never be happy with him
Tony made a lot of good matchs.
But, 6 TOs is verry bad for you.
TONY PARKER will go to LAS VEGAS
(i'm not english or american, sorry for the mistakes in this post
If they leave him open, he'll need to take shots to keep them honest. Not every time up the floor obviously, but he doesn't do that anyway...
So what?!!!!??
Because do you think that "11 from 22 "(= 50% i'm afraid that you cannot calculate but I think this is the case
Because when you see it(can you see?):
15/54 in FG % for the rest of the team(Except TIM who is also at 50%)
that is to say that the rest of the team(Except TIM who is also at 50%) is at 28% of success
So when you see this,I really want TP taking 25% of the shoot still
Is he the point guard or the 'man' on this team? Do you want him to get others involved in the game or just chuck shots up? Is he going to shoot us into the playoffs? Do you want marbury or stockton running your team?
Stockton would average 7 apg on this team.
I don't want neither marbury nor stockton running my team but Tony Parker
TP NEVER played for JVG......he played against him.
ducks, you are a member of honor in every Manu vs Tony debate.
And if there is no debate going on, you are the one who always stirrs the pot with anti-Manu comments. If you wantme to, I can retrieve dozens of anti-Manu posts from you on threads that weren't about Manu vs Tony.
STFU for once, please.
Give Tony a break. He's probably training hard at this very moment to get his shot up.
what shot are you talkin about? ive been waitin for this for the last few seasons ever since he started to bring this up about shooting, thats what he said last season, the season b4, the season b4 that.........only shots his practicing is bukake shots...
you do realize he was shooting over 50% from outside of 17 right
I would have to look to see what he is shooting right now
Parker is a scoring point guard, we all understand and love him for that. He's done well and vastly improved his jumpshot.
When scoring point guards are off, however, they let the others get into the game - but Tony just can't get that part. He continues throwing up shots, penetrating to the paint but getting scared and stuck and forcing us to take bad shots when he passes out after seconds have ticked off the clock, or even worse like last night, where he was getting stripped every time he got into the paint.
team shot 37% last night
had they made their shots tp would have had atleast 10 assist last night
http://www.nba.com/hotzones/
I dare anyone to go here to check tp's outside shooting touch
and start comparing them to other players
For the ones saying TP > Manu....
It's simple, during regular season, Tony will do a lot better than Manu, but during playoffs (when defense gets more serious) Manu will always be better than Tony (a so one-dimensional player as Tony won't be as good with intense defense).
Besides, Manu cares more about the playoff and earning a ring than being nominated to ASG, that's why during REGULAR SEASON you'll likely only will see him at near full-throttle in closed games or against traditional rivals.
wow... one loss after going 6-1 in NOVEMBER!! and everyone is jumping off cliffs. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE BACK TO THIS TONY vs MANU BULL AGAIN!! I'm not surprised to see ducks and his moronic comments in here, but the people who keep saying Manu is better than Tony... WHERE IS THE PROOF?? I'm about the biggest Manu fan in here, with a few exceptions, and its freaking obvious that Tony is the better player right now, and just because he had ONE turnover prone game doesn't change a damn thing.
I can't believe Tony hasn't proven himself in the your eyes people!! What the does he have to do? average 30pts per game?? Sure, he could improve his assists per game, but damn! its not like the dude isn't playing out of his mind as of late!
That's a Touchdown!. Exactly the point I was making in a similar thread, following Monday's Rockets game.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53812
Many thought it was a "bashing" of TP. Quite the contrary. He's a fantastic player for only 24 years of age. He carried the team all season last year. The fact is he's still young, still developing and still has a great deal sto learn about the PG position. By no means is he a finished product or an elite PG yet.
Look at the legacy of the NBA's great PGs and you'll find that they could all beat teams in a variety of ways. Big O, Magic Stockton, Isaiah, JKidd and , even Michael "Sugar Ray" Richardson were all multi-dimensional.
The goal of every opponent is to try and taking away a player's strength. To be a truly effective and dangerous player, you've got to have a few more tools in your kit. At this point, Tony is primarily reliant on his scoring. Which renders him invisible when teams pack the lane and his outside shot is off.
The bottom line is he's got to figure out other ways to have an impact when he cannot score.
Again, it's simple, in REGULAR SEASON, Tony will be better (being so one-dimensional won't hurt in loose defense during regular season), in playoff, his one-dimensional play isn't as effective against harder D.
OTOH, Manu cares more about playoff and getting a ring, even if it means sacrifizing the ASG. So in regular season, you'll only see the best manu only in very closes games or against direct rivals for the ring. His game (with one of the best Basketball IQ of the whole league) is also more likely to be noticed against strong D, against soft D not so high IQ is needed, just athleticism and shooting a lot.
I think it's a fair trade for the Spurs, Tony can contribute during regular season to help spurs get a nice record and home court advantage, from playoff on, it will be mostly a job for Tim and Manu.
sad sad thread
nothing much to discuss about...
but the point is : the better the player is the higher your expectations are...
when TD post 20 and 10 but not playing great D and failing to be clutch you're disappointed... the same goes with manu or tony even the haters knows he can be the key to a victory and when he is they are simply happy and shut their mouths ^^
but when he's not as good as he's most of the time their pissed and they come on ST to have an argument coz they simply don't like him...
I don't even think it'll change no matter how much he improves... you want an argument you got it... enjoy
I just wonder how many of you just dont like the fact that he's young, good looking, rich, talented, has the opportunity to play as a spur alongside TD and manu and the worst that he's just french...
Now that's a sad, sad post
uh..No.
yes, that egoist beatch want to be the hero of team but is not more than undersized sg, streaky shooter, w/o court vision, w/o 3 pt range, TO prone (specially in critical moments), average defender (at best) and CLUTCHLESS
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