AHF, Allow Me...

[T Park]

it was either Vaughn or the wuss boy.

Vaughn's D was decent enough...

Finley though.

Sigh, that was just, tough to justify...

[Spurs16212]

I agree with Manny.... Pop played Horry way to many minutes and he was dead weight on the floor.... He was missing out on rebounds and his shot was way off tonight. Come to think about it, he has been off this season thus far. There were several calls which were incorrect calls but there is no excuse for having Horry in the game in the 4th quarter when the game was close and have Duncan on the bench until the 8 minute mark. Duncan, Oberto, Parker, Bowen, and Barry should have played the 4th quarter. They call this "just another game" but you would think that you would want to take the tie breaker.... They handed this game to Dallas tonight.....

On a side note, had they made their free throws, they would not have been in that situation as well. I suggest having the organization start deducting from the players paychecks for missed free throws. He about $500-$1000 per free throw. I think the percentage would go up to 85-90% if this was the case.

[pjjrfan]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DOwn by 3 and we get no good look at a 3. The second Tony got the ball after that miss by Horry, he should have shot that , he was on, it would have gone in.

I also thought that Tony should have taken the shot. He gave it up, didn't even look for the shot. And he gave it up to Finley who hasn't exactly been tearing it up. But it doesn't matter if he got fouled or not, I thought they let the game slip in the beginning of the 4th, with a lot of MO, I thought for sure Pop would bring Tim back in but he kept him out for like 3 or 4 mins, and the guy was hot. He could've bought him when Dirk came in, but he still waited. Arghhhhhh.

[pjjrfan]

Im hoping Pop is in his right mind and plays Jacque Vaughn.

I'm not familiar with Vaughn's game, but for Pop to bench Beno and not bring him back, I feel that Beno is going to ride the pine for a while and Vaughn will see more pt, if he is going to replace Beno he will need the work, tonights games showed either how rusty he is or that if this is his best the backup point will be a sore spot for the team. I still think Barry can help out here.

[xamila rey]

i think Vaugh did a decent job today
it would be unfair to be hard on him,
when today it is first time that he gets real minutes,
and it is against Dallas!

[whottt]

Vaughn was good the first time he came in the game but he took 2 horrible shots when he was in the second time. Vaughn is not an offensive player or the guy I want taking shots in the 4th quarter of any game. Vaughn should never be in the game at a meaningful juncture without Duncan, Parker or Manu also being on the court.


I know we signed him for his D, and I think he was a good signing, but he's not a playmaker and should never be used as one in the crucnh....this was a clear case of Pop expecting miracles and things that were not possible from a player. Pop is not a good enough coach to turn Vaughn into a scorer...no one is.

[Amarelooms]

The Dirk travel KILLED me because of the ing call on Tony just a minute earlier. If you're going to call that travel on Tony, you better ing call the one on Dirk. There was also a play where Buckner went up and down and they didn't call it.

I don't know how Dirk gets away with those late fouls. But he ran over Finley and they didn't even think to call it. Give me a ing break.

That's cause Dirk >>> Finley and Parker partner. Stop all your complaining SPurs fans...the Mavs won. You act like the Spurs are suppose to beat the Mavs every game. Note to you homers: THE MAVS ARE JUST AS GOOD AS THE SPURS IF NOT A BETTER TEAM...NOW SUCK IT UP!!!!

[ata]

That's cause Dirk >>> Finley and Parker partner. Stop all your complaining SPurs fans...the Mavs won. You act like the Spurs are suppose to beat the Mavs every game. Note to you homers: THE MAVS ARE JUST AS GOOD AS THE SPURS IF NOT A BETTER TEAM...NOW SUCK IT UP!!!!

Not that Spurs are suppose to beat Mavs in every game, true Spurs' fan expect win in every game, 82-0 season and 16-0 in post season. Everything else ist not acceptable.

[upTD]

I'm waiting for Tpark to come in here and defend him.

it's Manu, not Tpark should come in here and defend him.

5TOS , 8P 1 AST IN 24mins, is he the spurs's start sg?

[leemajors]

it's Manu, not Tpark should come in here and defend him.

5TOS , 8P 1 AST IN 24mins, is he the spurs's start sg?

gnob is still one of out best 4th quarter players. we really missed him in the 4th.

[polandprzem]

Not that Spurs are suppose to beat Mavs in every game, true Spurs' fan expect win in every game, 82-0 season and 16-0 in post season. Everything else ist not acceptable.

Excactly

Now... suck it up !!!!!!!!!!!!

[wildbill2u]

Beno got burned by the same play twice in a row with a timeout inbetween where Pop went off on him.

I'm not sure how you fix that. Wasn't Beno playing against their starter who's a lot quicker? .And Pop needs to realize there are some matchups in this league that don't favor all the other players, including our starters. As I recall, Parker has some trouble with Terry too

If Beno is good enough to stay on the squad as the backup PG, then you have to have some patience and show him you have confidence in him. Remember how Pop said Beno was 'playing really well" just a week ago.

If he's not the player to backup Parker, then he needs to sit him and go with Vaughn, not just react to two bad plays. I'm not a Beno fan particualarly, but Pop has to give the team some consitstency in his rotations.

[1Parker1]

But the lineup of oberto, horry, vaughn, bowen, and finley to start the 4th was brilliant!!

I saw that too. I was like WTF??! That was horrible. Especially considering Spurs ended the 3rd quarter, down only 2 and with all the momentum....if Pop had used a better lineup to start the 4th, at least thrown in any combo of Elson/Duncan/Parker/Barry, they could have managed to taken the lead....

[Bruno]

I'm not sure how you fix that. Wasn't Beno playing against their starter who's a lot quicker?

He was burned by Anthony Johnson who is one of the slowest PG in the league, Beno let him alone under the basket. It has nothing to do with a lack of quickness.
It's because of a lack of concentration/lack of effort/tactical mistake.
It's easily fixable : a more focused Beno and an analysis at the video (maybe followed by a pratice) should be enough to fix it.

[1Parker1]

I think one of the things Pop needs to figure out is how to counter the starting backcourt of Harris and Terry. For some reason, that kills the Spurs everytime. Harris is quick enough to defend Parker and stay in front of him and Manu is usually forced to defend Terry on the other side and expand a lot of energy defending him. Harris had another great game last night, doing all the little things to give the Mavs an edge and taking Parker off his game. Yes, Harris made some bone-headed plays last night, but he's young so it's understandable. Overall though, I think Spurs need to figure out how to sustain him. Parker's defense on him was horrible at certain times. Parker is just as quick to stay in front of him, but somehow he managed to let Harris get ahead of him several times.

[1Parker1]

BTW, since no one has mentioned it yet...the best part of the game (Aside from Duncan hitting 3 clutch FT's in a row ) was Bruce Bowen's defense on Stackhouse and Howard, virtually making Stackhouse a non-factor in the game.

[Emanuel20]

i think that Pop should have let manu play the last 5 minutes of the game....manu was stretching, jumping around, and Pop did not let him play...may be we would have won the game...

[Spurminator]

I hated some of Pop's lineups last night. I'm all for mixing it up early in the year to see if you find something, but looking for magic in a Vaughn-Finley-Bowen backcourt is like looking for a wife at a Lilith Fair concert.

I will say, though, that I am conforted by the fact that even with Manu and Parker playing poorly and Pop overcoaching himself, we still stayed close and had chances at the end.

And it's almost worth it all just seeing Duncan playing like he is lately. Gorgeous.

[td4mvp21]

That's cause Dirk >>> Finley and Parker partner. Stop all your complaining SPurs fans...the Mavs won. You act like the Spurs are suppose to beat the Mavs every game. Note to you homers: THE MAVS ARE JUST AS GOOD AS THE SPURS IF NOT A BETTER TEAM...NOW SUCK IT UP!!!!

That's not what he's saying. He's saying a travel should be a travel no matter what. If they call it against one team call it against the other.

[T Park]

By signing a real point guard last summer

Too bad none were available.

Outside of Speedy Claxton and Bobby Jackson who got overpaid like Juan Pierre this winter, good lord, who was out there?

Jannero Pargo IMO, but Kori isn't fond of him obviously

[T Park]

I'm waiting for Tpark to come in here and defend him.

Nothing to defend. The game was lost in the beginning of the 4th quarter.

I think Ginobili getting hurt made him go numb for a couple minutes.


I agree Elson should've been used more in the 4th if Horry isn't going to make threes.

Barry was obviously playing better than Finley, so that was another point of contention.

Finley is a good come off picks, ad pick and pop shooter.

Barry can create his own shot, and actually after the horrid shooting first half, came up good in the second half...


it was a ulative loss of poor defense in the first quarter, and bad lineups in the 4th.

[ManuTastic]

Horry mostly sucked, but he did run Dirk off a few 3s, which kept him from scoring. I'd say he did the best job on Dirk of anyone, and that's why he was in there. I would like to see him hit a shot every now and then though...
And it's nice of the refs, now that it's holiday time, to introduce us to our new diety: St. Dirk of Nowitzki. When Dirk knocks you down, it's not a foul, it's a blessing. I hope Finley didn't wash his jersey; it probably has an image of the Virgin on it by now.