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Why would your squad of ballers that you jerk to be giving up big leads in the first place?
Lol Stern would never let that happen as long as he thinks it will hurt the NBA's image.
Why would your squad of ballers that you jerk to be giving up big leads in the first place?
oh sure you can, people do it all the time.
oscar averaged a triple double for a season (while averaging 30 points!) and almost did it four other times. i don't need to see video to know that there's any way in nash is coming close to that. especially considering that no one in the history of the nba has EVER done it before or since.
objectively, nash isn't touching oscar on any level. subjectively, no one other than a suns fan would think otherwise.
does nash have a chance to win it three times in a row since he was not born in armerica?
does that not help stern's dream ...
You mean the scrubs? With an 8-man rotation, it can happen when you turn over the duties to the guys at the end of the bench... I don't see what your point is here...
I do watch a lot of games - that's why I pay for league pass... I saw Dirk lose the le by choking it up in 4 straight games. I also saw him lose to Nash, Amare, and Co. in 2005 in 6 games. I also saw him get blown out by Utah earlier this year... then I sadly, saw him play well the second time around...
Did you see Dirk tonight making a great comeback against the Pacers when the team was having an off night? Dirk4MVP
Nah, I was out to dinner... heard about it when I got back though... I need to watch the highlights now because they talked about some kind of Danny Granger controversy on Sportscenter top plays, so I have to wait for the next one to start...
What I want to know Ron Mexico is did you think Nash was MVP when he was in Dallas playing the exact same way? Did Nash really leave the Mavs for the cash or the fear of having to play defense?
[QUOTE=Celtic Pride]What I want to know Ron Mexico is did you think Nash was MVP when he was in Dallas playing the exact same way? Did Nash really leave the Mavs for the cash or the fear of having to play defense?[/QUOTE]
There are a couple of different versions to the story of exactly how Nash got away to the Suns and it really just depends on who you believe. He certainly didn't leave for fear of having to play defense because Nellie was still the coach of the MavsNash leaving was the beginning of the end of Nellie in Dallas though. Nellie was very upset over that cuz he couldn't run his offense as effectively (similar to Sun's current style) w/o Nash. This was a blessing in disguise as it expidited Avery Johnson becoming the Mav coach and a different style of play that is better suited to winning in the playoffs.
Whatever the reason it worked out great for both teams. Nash went to the perfect team for him and got 2 MVPs that he wouldn't have got by playing in Dallas with Dirk. The Mavs got better because Dirk was finally w/o his little buddy that he always deferred to so he had to become "the man". His game has improved so much w/o Nash being there. I'm not saying his game couldn't have improved as much as it has with Nash, I'm saying it wouldn't have because he wasn't nearly as selfish as he needed to be when Nash was around.
No . Having to play defense strikes fear in Nash's heart.
LMAO...this is when you know that a poster is just flat out hating and will not ever admit when a player is one of the best in the league. The guy scores 43 to propel his team and you still try to make an excuse. Its very sad really. You probably had the same excuses when he dropped 50 on yall in the playoffs. You can thank Tim Thomas for that little kiss he blew to ignite Dirk. Classy. Its fine...you keep making excuses. Maybe Dirk will drop 50 on yall again. Even then, you still won't give him credit
Ohhh maybe I know the Danny Granger thing you're talking about. He got blocked from behind by Howard and then when Howard was trying to get out of the paint, Granger literally tackles him. Maybe thats it.
I was just quoting what was said on Sportscenter... not hating... talk to Neil Everett next time he puts Danny Granger as top play #9 and then says, "Granger gets the 3pt play here, but couldn't get the whistle at the end of regulation... Mavs win in OT." That's the direct quote, and combining that with the "Danny Granger can't buy a call" thread started here, I made the statement that I wanted to see the highlights because the score on the ticker made it look like a good game and then the top play comments fueled the fire.
No one is hating - I hadn't seen the big 3's made by Terry or Dirk yet... I still maintain that Dirk would have gotten the call that Jermaine O'Neal did not. I'm still trying to figure out what block by Howard you mean... everyone on here has said he "blocked" O'Neal's shot, not Granger's.
I don't believe he was playing the "exact same way" if you mean a career high in FG% 3PT%, points and assists this year at (almost) age 33 this year is "the same."
He averages 1.4 steals per game over his career, which isn't too bad.He does??? I must have been taking a piss during those times that he's getting those steals
Terry is a very average defensive player...but he's a big step up from Nash in that category.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jason_...eer_stats.html
Did you watch all the highlights? Yes, Josh did block O'Neal, but that was the end of regulation. He also blocked Granger's point blank shot from behind at the end of OT. Then, Granger immediately fouled by tackling him. Kinda a big play...are you blind?
They didn't show the play at the end of OT on the 5 am Sportscenter... I guess they were blind to how big the play was?
Well, lemme ask you. Do you consider this important: Mavs up 112-111, Pacers with ball with 27 seconds left in OT, O'Neal gets a good look and misses, Granger rebounds under the basket for a layup and Howard blocks it and is then pulled to the floor by Granger with 6 seconds left. Inbound pass to Dirk and Dirk fouled with 2 FTs to seal it. Here is the play-by-play for ya:
Terry Jump Shot: Made (30 PTS) 0:27
[DAL 112-111]
0:08 O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
0:07 Granger Rebound (Off:5 Def:3)
0:06 Granger Layup Shot: Missed Block: Howard (2 BLK)
Howard Rebound (Off:3 Def:5) 0:05
0:05 Granger Foul: Personal (5 PF)
Why are you attacking me? ESPN is the one to blame here for only showing Dirk's 3 in OT and then cutting to the stats page by saying the Mavs won. I'm sorry that I didn't see the play or research the Yahoo! play-by-play to get a better understanding about a game that isn't that important to me as a fan. You called me blind and I merely suggested that Sportscenter might be as well for not showing that highlight.
The basketball gods will never allow this to happen.
By the way anyone else see Nash's sick block off the glass against the Grizz? Haha.. the guy whose shot he blocked looked pretty surprised.
Those stats should have never won the MVP in the first place. The MVP is a joke! , they don't even know how to define it. Make your team better? That's not a most valuable player. The MVP should be just what it is, The Most Valuable player to the league! The Best player! No way in that Kobe should not have won that last season. He singlehandily saved the league when it was struggling mightily last season with his 62 in 3 quarters and 81 point games.
I think Nash is a good player but his inability to play both sides of the court well should not have earned him the MVP award, imo! I have a problem with Nash winning the MVP anyway when the rules were changed (for him) to help him succeed in this league. In todays NBA, those stats are bloated. I would bet you that players like Isiah Thomas, Mark Price and Kevin Johnson would average 30/15 a night in todays NBA. There should be an asterik on all awards after the rule changes because they made a drastic difference in play. Even Kobe's 81 should have one. This game is all about Offense and I'm starting to wonder if the NBA is truly "Rigged"
HAHAHAHAH - the MVP by definition is the "Most Valuable Player to his team" aka "one who makes the team better." I don't have the time/energy to respond to all the inaccuracies in your post. If they just picked the best player in the league every year, then whoever was rated highest in NBA Live that season should win it. (I guess this is your argument why Kobe should have 6 MVPs or something.)
The reason the rules had to be changed is so they could get it back to the days of old. Teams were averaging in the 100s per game as early as 1970. Defense was played with the feet instead of the hands, so the league had to put in a hand-check rule in order to put the fun back in the game. As a Showtime Laker fan, you should appreciate that more than anybody. Kevin Johnson averaged 20/11 up until 1996 when the Riley-style Knicks were all the rage and then his numbers dropped to 17/7. He was only 28 at the time, so age wasn't a factor - it was the fact that changes in style and current rules prevented players from driving the lane, which is what makes a point guard effective. Tiny Archibald averaged 34/11 in the 1970s because players didn't hand check and actually tried to play fundamental defense. Oscar Robertson averaged a triple-double because the rules allowed him to back down players (Mark Jackson abused that, so the rule was changed to disallow it).
hmm... we also saw the Suns get their asses handed to them by the Spurs in 2005 in 5 games, and by the Mavs in 2006 in 6 games. it appears that Nash, Amare, and Co. hasnt even made it to the finals. perhaps the Suns are now going to be like the Colts of the NFL. great team, tons of offense, mediocre defense, despite stats that make it look better than it is, that wins lots of games in the season. however, teams with strong, well executed defenses will always beat them in the playoffs, no matter what.
you have no right to talk trash, you worthless piece of .
btw- so you cant put stupid words in my mouth as you typically do... currently, i think Nash is hands down the frontrunner for MVP this year. the only other player that can even be considered is Dirk, mainly because the Cavs (Lebron) arent very good, the Lakers (Kobe) are way too inconsistent and Kobe hasnt been quite the force he was last season and is still quite inconsistent, the Heat (Wade) sucks ass this year, and no one else really stands out so far.
You have no right to talk trash either - your franchise has made the Finals once in their history.
Perhaps the Suns will be like the Colts and start playing defense this playoff season... whoops, the Suns already have started in the regular season.
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