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You're right, my mistake.
They can. You can't trade consecutives future first round picks.
You're right, my mistake.
not gonna happen. kings can trade artest for maggette straight up.
spurs are going to have to make do with what they've got. and the players they've got are good enough to win a championship. unfortunately, what the spurs have got coaching those players isn't good enough for a championship.
I don't like the idea of trading Barry..
We need this guy come playoff time, He is a great shooter, smart player and still dangerous.
IMO.. Finley, Bonner and Scola for Maggette.
Why Finley? Because, I don't like he's defense, jumpshot no longer consistent, and I don't like a player who does fadeaway shooting 3's.
Would love for you to post the video of him ever shooting a fade away three.I don't like a player who does fadeaway shooting 3's.
More unfounded baseless bullcrap.
Finley in the playoffs last year, STEPPED UP.
Barry, did his usual BS and stepped aside.
If you think, hes gonna step up, your gonna have a long wait pal.
OMG
He's not going to be a Spur....
get over it already
All you people are expecting a major trade from the FO that brought in the likes of Bonner, and Eric Williams.
Besides if the Clips can get a Ron Artest out of this trade, how attractive do Barry and Bonner look.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printe...ines-pe-sports
Other than a potential Artest-Maggette deal, the Clippers haven't been overwhelmed with the players teams have proposed offering for Maggette
If the Clippers were only building for the future, they might move Maggette for some of the young players teams have supposedly made available in exchange for the seven-year veteran.
The Clippers, however, are focused on the present.
Despite their disappointing 12-16 start, the Clippers said they still expect to qualify for the Western Conference playoffs.
The Clippers want a productive veteran for Maggette, preferably an efficient long-range shooter who has a high basketball IQ. But is Maggette's trade value high enough to help the Clippers acquire a difference-maker?
"The Clippers want a productive veteran for Maggette, preferably an efficient long-range shooter who has a high basketball IQ. But is Maggette's trade value high enough to help the Clippers acquire a difference-maker?"
Brent Barry+X?
Good assessment, but then why would the Clippers be willing to take him back instead of Barry? They have eyes too; they can see what you see!
But if they can't get Ron Artest, and Petrie seems to be posturing for the Kings to get more than just Maggette for Artest, it's pretty clear that level of offers dips quite a bit.
I still think it's a long-shot that the Spurs land Maggette, but with a currently overvalued Barry (won't shoot over 50% on threes for the year), an undervalued Maggette (starting-quality bench player), the strength of the 2007 draft class, and the Spurs holding 3 or possible 4 overall draft picks.....it's not inconceivable.
On a side note, Barry and Bonner are no "Brad Pitt", but they're still pretty attractive. I am a sucker for red hair though...
Evasive Petrie downplays talk of Artest trade
He won't talk about deal speculation but says the forward's outlook is fine.
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PST Thursday, December 28, 2006
Despite a report claiming the Kings could be days from trading Ron Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for Corey Maggette, all indications are that the deal will not go down.
And while Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie would not discuss the potential trade for Maggette that was reported in the Los Angeles Times, he did speak of Artest as if he weren't going anywhere anytime soon.
"His happiness level is fine," Petrie said before the Kings faced Philadelphia on Wednesday night at Arco Arena. "He has a very large performance bank account. A lot of people have forgotten what it was like around here before he got here.
"I guess you could sum (the trade talk) up this way. It's a lot of noise, mostly white noise, like when a hen oodles -- wow, lays an egg -- and it makes a sound like it made a meteor."
The Artest situation has continued to escalate as the Kings have continued to slump. His happiness level has come into serious question, not only for the present but the larger question of whether he wants to be in Sacramento at all.
Asked about Artest's locker room impact and any potential influence on teammates, Petrie said: "He has some esoteric qualities. A lot of people do."
As for whether Artest has approached management with a desire to be traded, Petrie would only say, "That's a hypothetical question that you're going to have to save."
Miller move -- When newly acquired 76ers point guard Andre Miller was traded last week from Denver to Philadelphia, there was disappointment beyond anything relating to X's and O's.
Miller, who grew up in Los Angeles and lives in El Dorado Hills in the offseason, knew that playing in the Eastern Conference meant fewer visits home.
"I'm further away, but that's a part of business," said Miller, who was part of the deal bringing Allen Iverson to the Nuggets. "But everything's good. It's going to take some time, but it'll be all right."
He had a small group of family members attending Wednesday's game, including one woman who comes to Arco Arena even when Miller isn't in town. His aunt, Marsha, is a Maloof Sports & Entertainment employee, a friendly face who welcomes cars into the parking lot on game nights, checks in media members and made no secret about her desire for the Kings to put her nephew in purple.
Webber in town -- Chris Webber sat at his locker, his lap full of tickets and his lips moving as he triple-checked whether he had enough for the whole lot.
The former Kings forward said 30 tickets was enough to satisfy his inner circle. All of them were surely glad to see Webber on the floor, as he missed four games from Dec. 15-22 because of an ankle injury. While he said before the game he felt healthy, Webber played limited minutes against the Kings after playing just 13 minutes Tuesday.
http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/99559.html
Because the Clipps saw how much he STEPPED UP in the playoffs, didn't they?jbspurs Why Finley? Because, I don't like he's defense, jumpshot no longer consistent, and I don't like a player who does fadeaway shooting 3's.
We should go for Elton Brand and Livingston for Finley, altho the Clips should also add Magette and Kaman to the trade.
Are you for real?
I'd be somewhat surprised to see the Artest-Maggette trade go down. Would Sacto give up the clearly better player simply because he's not all there? It'd be hard to swallow Maggette's reduced impact after Artest's promise, and for their part, I can't see LAC offering any more to get a risky guy like Artest. It could get to an impasse, in which case secondary offers may be reviewed. Not saying the Spurs have what it takes, but to me it's just as likely Maggs goes somewhere else. He'll go somewhere, at least.
Usually I don't buy the hype on these in-season trades since it seems that they never materialize but the more I look at Maggette, the more I like the idea.
He's a very good rebounder for his size, which is something to Spurs desperately need. In last year's playoffs, he averaged 7.3 rebounds in 24 minutes per game. He's currently averaging more rebounds than anyone on the Spurs outside of Tim Duncan.
Offensively, he's not much of a shooter but he has one great skill -- getting to the free throw line. And with how the rules are setup now, that's a great quality to have. A couple seasons ago, he went to the free throw line 10 times per contest. That's more than Duncan has ever gone to the line and more than Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker combined.
Last year in the playoffs, it became a battle of free throws. Nowitzki and Wade basically held a free throw shooting contest in the finals. As long as the rules are like that, Maggette is a guy to have. He gets to the line as well as almost anyone in the league and can knock them down at a high rate.
You would never be able to buy him as low as you could get him for right now. He's a 27-year-old player with dynamic skills who has a chance to get even better. If the Spurs can get him without giving up any of the Big Three, I'd do it in a second.
Of course, there are drawbacks. He's a bit of a whiner, has a history of being a china doll and has never been known for his defense. He'd also probably not be happy if the Spurs traded for him and decided to bring him off the bench.
But the good news is the Spurs should have inside knowledge on whether Maggette is Spurs material or not. Back before Chip Engelland was hired by the Spurs, he was Maggette's personal shooting coach. He helped transform Maggette from a guy who couldn't hit a jumper in college, to a guy who became an NBA three-point threat. (However, since Engelland has been hired by the Spurs, Maggette's three-point shooting has regressed. Perhaps that'd be another reason why Maggette would welcome a trade to San Antonio.)
Overall, this would be a very good opportunity for the Spurs. They can get a perimeter player who can rebound and get to the free throw line for well below market value. The Spurs also have inside knowledge on his character. Plus, trading away Brent Barry now would be selling him high.
Barry + Udrih + Picks = Maggette
Barry + Bonner + Picks = Maggette
I'd do either of those trades in a heartbeat.
Do the clipps have a backup pg they could send the Spurs?
Not really. Unless you consider Daniel Ewing an improvement over Beno.
Is he?
No. He's just a friend of Mike Dunleavy, Jr. who pops decided to let play in the NBA.
Anything to get some of those rebounds out of Josh Howard's hands. Howard can single-handedly wreck the Spurs' chances at a trophy this year.
Getting to the freethrow line that often is impressive. I haven't seen him play much, so don't know how he does it, but he must have an amazing ability to get people in foul trouble. Or at least scatter some fouls across a front line. He also hits them at an amazing clip, 80% or so IIRC.
Here's hoping Pop and Co. are in the Clippers' ear subtly poisoning the idea of acquiring Artest in support of their trade package.
Maggie (LA) California: Do you see this possible Artest-Maggette trade taking place?
Chris Sheridan: (3:11 PM ET ) There are a lot of other proposals coming the Clippers' way, and I get the impression from my sources in Sacramento that the Kings want to give the Artest situation some time to cool down. I'd expect they'll reassess their status after their upcoming homestand, and Maggette might be gone from L.A. by the time that homestand ends. Right now I think the Heat might have the edge, but I wouldn't discount the Spurs, who are working under the radar to make a move, and I wouldn't discount the Rockets if Maggette is still in Los Angeles on Jan. 5, which is when Bonzi Wells can be traded.
First Bucher and now Sheridan...it looks as though we are very interested..
I bet it's a scare tactic. But it's certainly enticing.
Yeah, that's what I think. Adding Maggette to this team would be sick. You can solve a lot of the rebounding problems while adding a player who goes to the line as much as David Robinson in his prime. And you can get all that out of a shooting guard.
That homestand for Sacramento ends Jan. 9, so they must expect him moved very soon.I'd expect they'll reassess their status after their upcoming homestand, and Maggette might be gone from L.A. by the time that homestand ends.
I wonder what package the Heat could possibly put together.
I'm guessing the centerpiece would be Dorrel Wright. If so, the Clippers would be dumb not to take it.
Then again they are saying they want a veteran in return. And they are still the Clippers.
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