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    All she cares about is a conservative pres.

    Forget that america spoke in november when it said "Hey Bush, You Suck!!!"

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    Well that's what I thought most religious conservatives would conclude, but the obvious anti-mormon bias shown in the polls and on this board makes me wonder of what they are so afraid concerning mormons.

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    Too much footage from 20/20 and Dateline. They only like the mormon vote.

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    All I know is if I had a casino, I would definitely have them run it.

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    Well that's what I thought most religious conservatives would conclude, but the obvious anti-mormon bias shown in the polls and on this board makes me wonder of what they are so afraid concerning mormons.
    That there won't be enough bedrooms in the WH for all the kids?

    As for Romney, how do you know WTF he's going to do? His social positions have been all over the map, parroting towards the conservative NOW, since it appears to be somewhat in fashion. His remarks during the '94 Senate race show that he is willing to completely change his position on a dime to curry favor and earn political capital. Desperate fools like Crooky will believe him, though, and vote for a "cultist" who's basically lying and telling them what they want to hear.

    Romney the flip flopper

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    I certainly agree that Mit chnged his views, most likely to make himself more attractive to religious conservatives. Did you see John McCain on Hardball doing backflips to make his stance on gay marriage more in line with the religious right when his handlers told him to during a commercial break?

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    So you'd rather vote for a cultist than a Liberal?

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    I certainly agree that Mit chnged his views, most likely to make himself more attractive to religious conservatives. Did you see John McCain on Hardball doing backflips to make his stance on gay marriage more in line with the religious right when his handlers told him to during a commercial break?
    Yeah, McCain isn't real high on my hit parade, either, sucking up to the likes of The Devil Himself, Jerry Falwell.

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    At the risk of starting a whole new thing here, tell me why.
    Because of the differences between what they belive and what Orthodox Christians believe.

    ES summarized it well.

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    Because of the differences between what they belive and what Orthodox Christians believe.

    ES summarized it well.
    So they aren't Orthodox Christians.

    Are they going to for rejecting the Nicene Creed?

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    So they aren't Orthodox Christians.

    Are they going to for rejecting the Nicene Creed?
    No, they're going to for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

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    No, they're going to for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.
    Do they reject Jesus?

    Are all the Jews going to too, Crooky?

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    Do they reject Jesus?

    Are all the Jews going to too, Crooky?

    Come on, quit questioning people's faith in what they choose to believe. That's not fair to anyone.

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    Come on, quit questioning people's faith in what they choose to believe. That's not fair to anyone.
    How is asking what someone believes not fair?

    Crooks believes Mormons are going to because she thinks they reject Jesus as their savior.

    Jews reject Jesus as their savior, so it's a completely fair question.

    If someone is afraid to talk about their beliefs on the internets, I can respect that fear. All they have to say is they are afraid to answer my questions.

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    How is asking what someone believes not fair?

    Crooks believes Mormons are going to because she thinks they reject Jesus as their savior.

    Jews reject Jesus as their savior, so it's a completely fair question.

    If someone is afraid to talk about their beliefs on the internets, I can respect that fear. All they have to say is they are afraid to answer my questions.

    Yeah, but you know the answer to the question. Are you only asking it so that the "non-religious" folks who post here (Boutons) can immediately lay into the Crooks?

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    Then again, who am I to stick up for someone else on the internet, it would sort of be hypocritical of me..............ask away.

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    No, I just really want to know. Given the religious right's affinity for Israel, it would be interesting to know where they think all the Israelis are going to spend their afterlives.

    Why be afraid to express your beliefs on an anonymous message board?

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    No, they're going to for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, rejects Jesus.


    um...ok.

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    Really, the mormons have some wacky beliefs (and underpants), but they are pretty high on the J-man--not orthodox-ly, though.

    I would ask those others who don't count them as Christians the same question:

    Are the mormons going to for not agreeing with the Nicene Creed?

    Are Jews going to for rejecting Jesus as their savior?

    Muslims?

    Buddists?

    Hindus?

    Folks who through no fault of their own have never heard of Jesus?

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    Folks who through no fault of their own have never heard of Jesus?
    Spiritual Darwinism

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    Really, the mormons have some wacky beliefs (and underpants), but they are pretty high on the J-man--not orthodox-ly, though.

    I would ask those others who don't count them as Christians the same question:

    Are the mormons going to for not agreeing with the Nicene Creed?

    Are Jews going to for rejecting Jesus as their savior?

    Muslims?

    Buddists?

    Hindus?

    Folks who through no fault of their own have never heard of Jesus?

    I asked that very question to my Catholic Priest about a year ago. His view was that for those people that aren't Christian, they get the opportunity after their death for one last shot as accepting Jesus Christ as their savior and express their feelings about the one true God. If they do this, then they're in the clear.

    I don't know if it was his view or that of the entire Catholic church, but that's what he told me.


    By the way, I'm a very skeptical and inquisitive type of Catholic.

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    So they aren't Orthodox Christians.
    I don’t believe they are Christians given the differences in belief systems.

    Are they going to for rejecting the Nicene Creed?
    Only God knows who goes to .

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    By the way, the Catholic Priest I talked too explained it a lot better then I did, but that's pretty much what I got out of it.

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    I don’t believe they are Christians given the differences in belief systems.
    What would they have to change for you to accept them as Christians?
    Only God knows who goes to .
    That certainly seems like a cop out to me considering that the orthodox seem to have pretty clear requirements for getting into heaven.

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