The Spurs To Shake Things Up

[Mr. Body]

I think a Bonner trade would open the door pretty widely for Scola next season. It's a pretty weak FA market for bigs this summer and no immediate help would come from our draft spots.

Depending on his asking price of course.

Not only a weak big market, but the draft looks to be killer with big man prospects.

[T Park]

That's a little much, but it does give an unexpected quality to the Spurs. Which they haven't had vs. the Mavs in God knows how long. We're too damn predictable

If the Spurs had a Maggette type player yesterday, they win that game.

No question in my mind.

, had Horry or Bonner just played, they would've won.


The Bonner playing more, and Horry less or none is suprising.


Horry is still moving well, his minutes against Dirk, he stayed with him and kept a hand in his face pretty well. i wonder if its just age, saving, or something else.

, Horry didn't even get to take a shot.

Him shooting or making a three, would've helped imensly.

[Kori Ellis]

True. That sucks. He's out with a sore widdle foot at the moment.

Anyone know a list of the ailments he's had over the years?

15-Dec-06: Missed 2 games (bruised left knee).
11-Dec-06: Bruised left knee, inactive list.
19-Apr-06: Missed 7 games (back spasms).
09-Apr-06: Back spasms, day-to-day.
03-Mar-06: Missed 39 games (foot injury).
07-Dec-05: Foot injury, day-to-day.
09-Nov-05: Missed 4 games (hamstring).
05-Nov-05: Hamstring, day-to-day.
20-Apr-05: Missed 5 games (left wrist injury).
13-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, injured list.
12-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, remainder of the regular season.
09-Feb-05: Missed 5 games (shoulder injury).
29-Jan-05: Shoulder injury, day-to-day.
26-Jan-05: Missed 2 games (left foot injury).
22-Jan-05: Left foot injury, day-to-day.
26-Dec-04: Missed 1 game (groin).
21-Dec-04: Groin, day-to-day.
01-Dec-04: Missed 2 games (sprained left ankle).
28-Nov-04: Sprained left ankle, day-to-day.

[Kori Ellis]

The foot injury (39 games) was a ligament issue. He had a cast for a couple months I believe.

[T Park]

It is interesting Engellund worked with Maggette. That makes me feel a bit better.

He turned him from a dude who dunked, to a stud, close to, all star.

Engelland is a of a shooting coach, evidenced by Parker, and Maggette.

Of course his FT shooting coaching hasn't caught on yet.

Hes improved Oberto some as well.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I think a Bonner trade would open the door pretty widely for Scola next season. It's a pretty weak FA market for bigs this summer and no immediate help would come from our draft spots.

Depending on his asking price of course.

Spurs should trade to draft Aaron Gray or sign Javtokas. We should use the draft to get another PG.

[timvp]

15-Dec-06: Missed 2 games (bruised left knee).
11-Dec-06: Bruised left knee, inactive list.
19-Apr-06: Missed 7 games (back spasms).
09-Apr-06: Back spasms, day-to-day.
03-Mar-06: Missed 39 games (foot injury).
07-Dec-05: Foot injury, day-to-day.
09-Nov-05: Missed 4 games (hamstring).
05-Nov-05: Hamstring, day-to-day.
20-Apr-05: Missed 5 games (left wrist injury).
13-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, injured list.
12-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, remainder of the regular season.
09-Feb-05: Missed 5 games (shoulder injury).
29-Jan-05: Shoulder injury, day-to-day.
26-Jan-05: Missed 2 games (left foot injury).
22-Jan-05: Left foot injury, day-to-day.
26-Dec-04: Missed 1 game (groin).
21-Dec-04: Groin, day-to-day.
01-Dec-04: Missed 2 games (sprained left ankle).
28-Nov-04: Sprained left ankle, day-to-day.

Good research.

[SilverPlayer]

Maggette's numbers in two games against Dallas this year: at about his average.

Mins: 30:11
Rbs: 6.5
Ast: 0.5
TOs: 2.0
Stls:0.5
blks:0.0
PFs:2.0
Pts:15.5

[Kori Ellis]

Good research.

Yeah thanks

The foot that is bothering him currently is the same foot (left) that he had problems with before. However, I don't know if currently it's a ligament thing or what.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Maggette's numbers in two games against Dallas this year: at about his average.

Mins: 30:11
Rbs: 6.5
Ast: 0.5
TOs: 2.0
Stls:0.5
blks:0.0
PFs:2.0
Pts:15.5

[Mr. Body]

26-Dec-04: Missed 1 game (groin).
21-Dec-04: Groin, day-to-day.

A suggestion of balls, perhaps?

Thumbs up and thanks, Kori.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I agree with you Manny in that I'd like to see Bonner start in place of Elson as well. I mean, Bonner hustles his ass off, and while he may be no Defensive stopper, I can't see him faring worse than Oberto.


Plus, I like Oberto off the bench

although I'd like to see Bonner subbed out before TD so TD and Oberto can play together because I've always been a fan of that tandem

[ChumpDumper]

Spurs should trade to draft Aaron Gray or sign Javtokas. We should use the draft to get another PG.

Is Javtokas even playing anymore?

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah thanks

The foot that is bothering him currently is the same foot (left) that he had problems with before. However, I don't know if currently it's a ligament thing or what.

Looks like the current problem is a sprained ankle and an arch problem that has been bothering him for 2 weeks. He had been trying to play through it.

(And yes, I just quoted myself)

[Mr. Body]

Is Javtokas even playing anymore?

He took a long dive off a short cliff basketball-wise.

[timvp]

Looks like the current problem is a sprained ankle and an arch problem that has been bothering him for 2 weeks. He had been trying to play through it.

(And yes, I just quoted myself)

Sounds like a "trade me now" injury. Or a "trade imminent" injury.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Is Javtokas even playing anymore?

I don't know but I have a feeling he will be a good backup if not starting center for us in a few years.

[Kori Ellis]

Sounds like a "trade me now" injury. Or a "trade imminent" injury.

No, it's an actual injury. He stepped on Ariza's foot on Jan 2 and suffered a sprain ankle and sprained arch. Since then, he's been trying to play through it. So I correct myself, it wasn't 2 weeks ago, just this past week.

[lefty]

Obviously, Corey will help us on the offensive end ; but can he stop Dirk? no

[Kori Ellis]

Obviously, Corey will help us on the offensive end ; but can he stop Dirk? no

Yeah we aren't talking about him stopping Dirk. We are talking about upgrading the wing spots.

[Mr. Body]

Sounds like a "trade me now" injury. Or a "trade imminent" injury.

Clips got killed by the Hawks tonight. How embarrassing. I could guess the Maggette situation has been gnawing at the team and I agree Maggette might be shutting it down in 'trade me' protest.

A big bonus for them acquiring Barry would be adding a character guy.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah we aren't talking about him stopping Dirk. We are talking about upgrading the wing spots.

And rebounds. I think most of us will be happy just with rebounds. I for one am sick of seeing Josh Howard and crew picking up 5+ offensive boards a game.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Obviously, Corey will help us on the offensive end ; but can he stop Dirk? no

how many players realistically can stop Dirk?


I'd just stick Bowen, Elson on him and let Dirk get his

I'd try to focus more on limiting Howard and Terry

[MannyIsGod]

No one in the league can stop Dirk.

[joeyjfive]

I dont think anyone can stop Dirk at this point, you can only SLOW him down. But one thing I did notice about the Dallas loss is that Dirk is an absolute horrible defender, theres bad ones out there but we need to completely expose this. I mean for gods sake Oberto was lighting his ass up. Dirk is a huge liability out there. (and yes I know Dirk has been a bad defender for his whole career but I never relized it was that bad)