Reasonable trade ideas

[AFBlue]

Forget trades - if we lose every game for the rest of this year we can be in a position to land either Oden or Durant.


Tank it now. Rest Manu, TP, and TD on IR and gear up for a two year Championship run with a young gun coming in.

If we lost every game from here on out, we'd still lose out on those two.

[FirebatMIV]

Orlando wouldn't do it.

Nope.

Also, they don't have the contracts.

Here's an idea that I'm throwing out there.

San Antonio trades - Eric Williams/Brent Barry/Robert Horry/ to Utah, Beno Udrih/the rights to a foreign player(Scola)/2008 1st rd pick(conditional) to Boston.

Utah trades - SF Andrei Kirilenko to San Antonio, SG CJ Miles to Boston.

Boston trades - G Delonte West to San Antonio.

San Antonio helps Utah clear its SF rotation and gives guys like Milsap and Brewer some more playing time, Utah also gets its cap space and recieves a legitimate outside shooter and some veteran playoff experience for its very young team. Boston gets another pick with which they can use to build for the future and an inside scorer/bench scorer to compliment their talented wing guys and another athletic/high potential player in CJ Miles. San Antonio gets its defensively-oriented, athletic 3 (albeit, fragile and expensive) and its backup point.

[VaSpursFan]

Nope.

Also, they don't have the contracts.

Here's an idea that I'm throwing out there.

San Antonio trades - Eric Williams/Brent Barry/Robert Horry/ to Utah, Beno Udrih/the rights to a foreign player(Scola)/2008 1st rd pick(conditional) to Boston.

Utah trades - SF Andrei Kirilenko to San Antonio, SG CJ Miles to Boston.

Boston trades - G Delonte West to San Antonio.

San Antonio helps Utah clear its SF rotation and gives guys like Milsap and Brewer some more playing time, Utah also gets its cap space and recieves a legitimate outside shooter and some veteran playoff experience for its very young team. Boston gets another pick with which they can use to build for the future and an inside scorer/bench scorer to compliment their talented wing guys and another athletic/high potential player in CJ Miles. San Antonio gets its defensively-oriented, athletic 3 (albeit, fragile and expensive) and its backup point.

that's a decent little scenario. i could work with that.

[BeerIsGood!]

If we lost every game from here on out, we'd still lose out on those two.

We seem to have mojo with the lottery. I think we could land a top 2 or 3, and either way we'd get someone to impact the team right away next year making the next two years at least possible Championship seasons. As it stands right now - we're probably 3 and done.

[ajh18]

How about Barry/Udrih/and a second round pick to Memphis for Brian Cardinal and Dahntay Jones/Hakeem Warrick?

I don't know which of those two the Grizz would trade, or which we would prefer, but we would be taking one of their bad contracts off their hands, while getting either a younger, athletic defender in jones or a long 3/4 in warrick. They'd get better contracts, and a good veteran shooter in Barry, plus a pick to gamble with.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And you're asking people to apply reality.........................?

Granger is young, he's at the center of Indy's future, and he's on a cheap contract.

Outside of the big three there is no one they would take in return for him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Because Glenn Robinson was a huuuuuuu-uuuuge part of that championshpi. Give us a break.

Where did I say he was a huge part? I was offering him as a counter to the whole idea that someone who is a chucker and has a rep. for bad to no defensive skills couldn't come in and play defense on this team.

[regio]

Atlanta has a bunch of talented forwards. Could we package something for one of them? They are going to have another lottery pick and will have to pay out some big money for it like they did with Marvin Williams.

If im not mistaken Atlanta's lottery pick belongs to the suns (from the Joe Johnson trade)

[Mr. Body]

Where did I say he was a huge part? I was offering him as a counter to the whole idea that someone who is a chucker and has a rep. for bad to no defensive skills couldn't come in and play defense on this team.

Glenn Robinson is barely a blip on the radar of Spurs history, yet for a few decent sequences against Carmelo Anthony, supporters bring him up incessantly. For refuting opinion, I refer you to Ron Mercer.

[Supergirl]

Man, Rashard Lewis would ROCK. That's exactly the kind of player we need.
What would we have to offer to get him?

Other than that - Matt Barnes, SJax, or Richard Jefferson. That's about it from that list.

We need an athletic SF/long 3 who is willing to play D and put up 10-15 points a night pretty reliably, who won't complain about limited minutes.

We'd have to give up Barry, so we better get a good 3 point shooter, and probably Beno as well.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Granger is young, he's at the center of Indy's future, and he's on a cheap contract.

Outside of the big three there is no one they would take in return for him.

I've always thought Granger would be perfect as a Spur. Solid citizen, great defensive player. And he's a hit with the fans.

But Aggie's right. The Pacers organization is in love with Granger. Everything I've read makes me think it would take a lot to get him out of Indy...certainly more than the Spurs would be willing to barter.

[Kori Ellis]

Man, Rashard Lewis would ROCK. That's exactly the kind of player we need.
What would we have to offer to get him?

Manu or Tony.

And he doesn't rebound or play D (though he was rebounding better this year, prior to his injury).

[2centsworth]

Spurs need to plan for the near future (2-3 years) and get younger and more athletic.

They need to unload guys like Barry and Fin for picks in the draft. Maybe the spurs can get a late #1 for Barry.

Then with the money they will have next offseason they need to sign a young athletic small forward.

No more old FA signings. this team is starting to look more and more like the -'00-'02 teams.

[2centsworth]

Manu or Tony.

And he doesn't rebound or play D (though he was rebounding better this year, prior to his injury).

I think he's getting about 7rbs per game. Now I don't know about the D.

The trade doesn't make the spurs better IMO.

[AFBlue]

If im not mistaken Atlanta's lottery pick belongs to the suns (from the Joe Johnson trade)

It's top 3 protected. So if they have one of the worst 3 records in the league and/or it shakes out that they've got a top 3 pick, they get to keep it.

I think it goes unprotected next year.

[remingtonbo2001]

i heard on espn things were reallly wrong between saunders and R wallace. now i don't know about his contract. And i'm not sure pistons would deal with us bbut it's an intriguing thought

Oh, how I would LOVE Rasheed playing next to Timmy. Rasheed might be the only player, with the exception of Jackson, that I would bring in, knowing full well of the emotional baggage. I doubt that would fly, but man, Tim and Rasheed in the front court would be about as intimidating as D-Rob and Tim. I wish, but seriously doubt it. Spurs FO, I doubt would take the risk. I believe it would also require giving up one of the big 3.

[Mr. Body]

Didn't realize until looking Sheed makes $12M/yr plus two more. Also didn't realize what a well-run organization Detroit is. With their talent they aren't even scraping the luxury tax. They can even resign Billups for a decent coin this summer if they want to. They're unlike the Spurs, who have so much sunk into our three good players it's hard to manuever anywhere else.

[STEVEYCU]

with the way berry and beno are playin we will have a hard time gettin anyone... shoulda pulled the triger on the Magette deal... the only chance the spurs get anyone who will help is by tradin draft picks and some expirin contracts to a bad team that needs to unload a longer contract guy

[td4mvp21]

I think it's pointless to talk about trades when the ing management won't make one.

[exstatic]

Yeah, for the 20 games a year where AK is healthy.

He averaged 70 games for his first 5 years. That's more than Ginobili. AK47 puts us past Dallas, immediately, and that IS a contract they would take on past '08. He and Josh Smith as a FA in '08 are my first two choices. They're both tweener forwards who are long, athletic, and block a load of shots. AK is more polished, Josh Smith is younger.

[1Parker1]

I'd give anyone not named Duncan, Manu, or Parker for a chance to land Jermaine Oneal. He has said repeatedly that after this season is over, he thinks that the Pacers and he should part ways.

Problem is, we'd have to wait a year and I want the Spurs to win now!

[hoopdreams11]

Keyon Dooling anyone? gives the spurs the big guard they need on defense.

[exstatic]

with the way berry and beno are playin we will have a hard time gettin anyone... shoulda pulled the triger on the Magette deal... the only chance the spurs get anyone who will help is by tradin draft picks and some expirin contracts to a bad team that needs to unload a longer contract guy

IIRC, the Clips were the reluctant party. They thought they could get more.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Yeah, Indy is just bucking to trade one of their best players who happens to be on a rookie contract for our discards

Granger would cost you Manu or Tony. Come on people, at least apply some reality to your trade scenarios.

exactly. Look at what Granger is doing during his 1st game back as a starter

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd give anyone not named Duncan, Manu, or Parker for a chance to land Jermaine Oneal. He has said repeatedly that after this season is over, he thinks that the Pacers and he should part ways.

Problem is, we'd have to wait a year and I want the Spurs to win now!

Yeah, I think you're more likely to be able to get someone like (perhaps) Jeff Foster out of the Pacers. I can't see the Spurs doing that, given that they just invested in two center-types and have Bonner in the wings, but I could see that Foster might actually be a decent fit in some ways. He certainly would give the Spurs a guy who can be a tenacious rebounder at both ends, which wouldn't suck.