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My bad, gotcha.I responded to LJ in the affirmative that this thread would reach four pages (and I have my forum settings on 40 posts/page), so the -62 is in reference to my post being #98.
I call bull .
Pop would at least know how to spell his own name.
My bad, gotcha.I responded to LJ in the affirmative that this thread would reach four pages (and I have my forum settings on 40 posts/page), so the -62 is in reference to my post being #98.
Iverson was the only man who could score or even touch the ball in Philly,tell me,what did they win???
you need a balanced Of. in order to spread the other teamīs Defence,otherwise you become too predictible if most of your points come from the same man.
RIGHT ON DUDE!
in bull .
Yes,Pop is stupid,thats why he coaches the spurs and you coach.....mmmmmmmmm(canīt remember the team)
I'm not comparing the offenses. The other poster was comparing him to Nash and responded.
And I agree, Pop is trying to do something. He's trying to get one of the other players to step up. Hopefully it works. But people are crazy if they think the point is to completely stop Tony from shooting (or "chucking" as they keep saying). Pop is just trying to get someone else's confidence and production up.
yeah all the Tony haters need to STFU. Tony is playing better this year than anytime in his career. Plus he is willing to do anything for the team even shoot less.
I think that,whatīs going on right now is what always happens every year by mid junuary or sometimes mid feb.Pop is gonna start playing 8 players(9 at the most)rotation and he wants those players to be in good shape,+he did let tony have some fun out there,by being selfish and ,but now its time to play some spurs basketball.Come on guys,you still get sorprised by this??it happens every year.I just hope we donīt come up short this year by having too many old guys on the roster.
Contrary to what some of the parker defenders say many people don't hate parker. Since when did critcizing a player on your team equate to hating him? I am not directing this to anyone in particular but when your response to some valid TP criticism is " You just hate Tony parker" it's intellectually weak. There are many knowledgable folks on this board and it irritates me a bit that some feel the need to demean those they don't agree with. I agree with Kori in that Parker will probably be directed to become more aggressive at some point later in the season. At this moment in the season we are not getting enough support for the big 3 and I agree with Pop's decision to try and get our jump shooters more shots.. MAYBE this will equate to more wins and improve the quality of play. If this ploy does work and Pop then reverts back to "play more agrressive Parker" I may have to start questioning what in the we are doing.. my point is if this works let's not revert back to what didn't work..
why don't you stfu..is the team as a whole playing better than last year? what do you want? a second round and out team with TP playing great? or a chance to win a ring with TP toning it down a bit?
Also if TP is going to be aggressive, I'd rather have him aggressive and attacking the paint in the FOURTH QUARTER when points are hard to come by. This bad habit of starting out strong and then fading (games and series) is becoming a bad movie in my opinion. Why waste all your energy, freeze out your teammates, and most importantly, give your opponents 3 quarters to figure out how to stop your dribble penetration in the all-important 4th qtr? Save your scoring for 4th qtr tony and I will forever shut my mouth up!
Right on dude,thanks god those that take criticism as hate to somebody are only fans and donīt work on the teamīs front office.
if they wanna call me a moron,I donīt really care.but for the record I have to say that, on many of my threads I said that this was coming,and Tony eventually was gonna have to stop playing Iversonīs BB. and become the PG heīs always been since he got to the spurs.
To all Parkerīs Fans(including my self)this is the best for him as a piont guard and mostly for the SA Spurs
busted! your Tony hate is out of the closet.
My point proven...I guess your slow... do want team success or a particular player to have success? If a player's success takes away from the overall team success are you ok with that? team or player? Why don't you change your evitar to a picture of Tony's jock?
If the team was shooting 50%, Tony wouldn't be shooting so much in the first place.whats better: parker shooting 53%, or the team shooting 50%?
So the latest welfare scheme is shots per game. Good luck with that one Pop.
I called out Tony Haters and u replied. u do the math genius.
I've gained some respect for Parker.
How many players in the league would listen to their coach and stop shooting as much? Especially when the player is a borderline All-Star who by shooting less could play himself right out of contention.
Props to Parker for putting the team over any personal goals
I've gained some respect for Parker.
How many players in the league would listen to their coach and stop shooting as much? Especially when the player is a borderline All-Star who by shooting less could play himself right out of contention.
Props to Parker for putting the team over any personal goals
He's got mine as well.
Pop: Tony stop shooting so much you damn ballhog.
Tony: But PJ told me it's okay to shoot.
PJ: . . .
I think the kind of players who want to win more championships instead of being on top of the stats.I've gained some respect for Parker.
How many players in the league would listen to their coach and stop shooting as much? Especially when the player is a borderline All-Star who by shooting less could play himself right out of contention.
Props to Parker for putting the team over any personal goals
Good for Tony,but great for the team.
maybe because they will have better looks? better rythm? higher confidence? pop seems to think that is the case. considering we have shot well in games with more ball movement, it just might be possible the two things are related
and where did i say it was tony's fault when others miss?
this discussion is about the coaching staff and how they structure the offense. as the primary ball handler tony's name is going to come up a lot, that is a testament to his importance to the team, not a slight against him.
I feel a lot better about the team after reading your replies though, because once pop ruins this season with his crazy talk abou ball movement, we'll get a real NBA coach, someone like you, who understands its just a matter of giving the ball to the guy with the highest percentage on every possession
It's all about the Xs and Os.
What happens when Parker drives? Well, for one thing, the entire defense of the opposing team collapses on him. This means that if he gets out of position or he misses, they suddenly have 3-4 players around the boards for rebounding.
Even if they -don't- collapse, if you'll watch, Parker goes to the opposite side of the bucket that Duncan has posted on (Duncan usually posts to the left side in this case). This means that there is not only a defender with Parker near the hoop, but one between Duncan and the basket, assuming they aren't fronting him. If Parker misses, or even if he passes to a teammate for a shot, the other team has effectively pulled in a bit. Duncan doesn't want to go over the back and pick up a stupid foul, so he has to give up the space and the rebound.
Compare this to the Tony Parker that drives and dishes. Now, he has a step on his man (who has to follow him out of the post), the defense has fallen back a bit, and we have open shooters who can move the ball just about anywhere. Since Tim doesn't have to worry about being in Parker's path when he drives, he can repost for better rebounding position if we miss.
As a side bonus, we control the game clock a lot more in this case, which means less time for the opposing team to have the ball, which means our defense will yield fewer PPG.
As a second bonus, Parker will most likely be fresher for the 4th quarter, meaning he can play better D and have better penetration. I've noticed that teams make almost as many adjustments to Parker now as Duncan. If you wait till the 3rd and 4th quarters before letting him loose, you could surprise a lot of teams who think they've been able to stay in front of him the whole game.
Sheesh I'm watching the game 2 of the 2005 Finals.
So much energy and intensity from TP, Manu, Bowen - awesome play. I reminded myself why I love that game and why I love spurs.
Right now it is not looking that great and even if Finley and Barry will gaing so much needed confidence I do not see much success against that hight octane, energy teams (mavs, suns).
The key will be the defensive intensity throughout the whole game that spurs are lacking, and realy you can't tell if they will be able to produce it just for the playoffs. If you don't have it you don't have it.
We have some names on the bench but not a valuable (as valuable as mavs) one from the production poit of view.
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