The Pop Show Today

[T Park]

is ploto just here to be annoying and piss people off?

[dimsah]

Wasn't it common knowledge at the time that the Spurs said something to the league about the Artest elbow? I didn't think they were trying to hide that. Is that my imagination?

[phyzik]

I just find it the most ing hilarious thing in the NBA that Lakers fans are calling out Stern (especially since it wasnt even him who gave out the suspension) saying Spurs are untouchable and he hates the Lakers.... The same man who said if it was up to him he would have a lakers vs lakers finals game.... Last I checked LA is still probably only second to New York, if not larger, in the NBA market... trust me, Stern still feels the same, he would masterbate mid-court if LA made the finals.

Its like LA fans feel en led to have everything ing fed to them with a silver ing spoon since Magic Johnson.

I seriously hope SA doesnt turn out that way when we lose TD.

A rule is a rule is a mother ing rule... Its unfortunate (and undeserving of a suspension IMO) but thats the way it is. Speeding on a highway to pass a bad driver is still speeding no matter how you look at it.... how is this any different?

[SequSpur]

you mean you all still listen to Popovich's show? , gave that up 2 years ago. What a waste of time.

[leemajors]

If this sums up a point POP made:

"He said the league can't determine intent and neither can anyone else. That it doesn't matter about the intent because it was only about it being a hit to the head"

By using this rationale, POP can no longer give a valid explanation as to why the players have sprained their ankles, or been hit in the face by bowens shoe (which is what happened to Wally). The outcome of severe physical contact alone is enough to to warrant a suspension, according to POP, because intent is undeterminable. Which of course is idiotic. What's even more idiotic is when he explains to the media that Bowen would NEVER deliberatley hurt a player because he KNOWS Bruce isn't that type of a guy. I usually don't defend Kobe, but according to POP a players good behavior, as he knows it, is enough to excuse a him from being suspended.

He's a hypocrite.

pop seemed to be speaking in the context of the rule - rule says blow to head, suspension. kobe did that, and got suspended. thus it was warranted. he didn't think it was intentional but the NBA is enforcing the rule to the letter. there's not any other way to look at it.

[ChumpDumper]

you mean you all still read Sequ's posts? , gave that up 2 years ago. What a waste of time.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

pop seemed to be speaking in the context of the rule - rule says blow to head, suspension. kobe did that, and got suspended. thus it was warranted. he didn't think it was intentional but the NBA is enforcing the rule to the letter. there's not any other way to look at it.

I understand. But don't you find it both ironic and unfair that a slight blow to the head that doesn't do any harm warrants a suspension, while the slide of a foot beneath a player in the air that can result in an ankle sprain or even worse a broken ankle deserves no penalty?

Throw intent in the air, and you've got the outcome of one injury that is clearly more costly to a player, and of course to his team...yet the injury that clearly isn't as debiliating is given more consideration from the people who make the suspension decisions.

[lovespurs forever]

Yes, the Spurs control the NBA.

[ChumpDumper]

"No harm"

Ironic, indeed.

[Louie Vega]

You think Phil is any different?!

I have more respect for Phil Hendrie then I do for Phil Jackson!

[Ronaldo McDonald]

"No harm"

Ironic, indeed.

Well now he has an excuse for having that massive snout of his!

[Dave McNulla]

Greg Anthony just said on NBA Coast to Coast that he knows for a fact that someone from the Spurs did contact the league personally on this. They just didn't say it publicly. Then Tim Leigler pointed out that last year, Spurs did the same thing with the Ron Artest foul to Ginobili. Artest wasn't kicked out of the game for that play or anything but afterwards Spurs front office made a big beef out of it and called the league to get Artest suspended for a game. So it has happened for the Spurs.

If it was anyone other than Kobe, no one would be trying to turn this around on the Spurs. Though I too don't think that Kobe deserves to be suspended, I hate how the media is turning it around on the Spurs saying that they are little ers.

first, greg anthony doesn't tap the spurs phone. the fact, as he puts it, is speculation or hearsay. second, tim legler doesn't tap the spurs phone... speculation or hearsay. third, nobody has ever said they have a source on the spurs that said they contacted to league to complain about any of those calls.

fourth, don't these friggin' idiots think the league has people who review all games for flagrant fouls especially when one is called, when a player is injured and spewing blood from their nose and holding ice packs against their eye, or when there is a big ruckus? of course they do. nobody needs to call the league about that stuff ever.

fifth, popovich never said he didn't call the league about this incident. but he didn't have to, see fourth.

[Dave McNulla]

Wasn't it common knowledge at the time that the Spurs said something to the league about the Artest elbow? I didn't think they were trying to hide that. Is that my imagination?

first there has to be knowledge before it becomes common knowledge. saying i know for a fact doesn't mean squat. anybody who says that should state the actual way that they know the fact.

[Dave McNulla]

I understand. But don't you find it both ironic and unfair that a slight blow to the head that doesn't do any harm warrants a suspension, while the slide of a foot beneath a player in the air that can result in an ankle sprain or even worse a broken ankle deserves no penalty?

Throw intent in the air, and you've got the outcome of one injury that is clearly more costly to a player, and of course to his team...yet the injury that clearly isn't as debiliating is given more consideration from the people who make the suspension decisions.

are you saying that anybody who moves their foot that somebody else lands on should get a penalty?

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Seriously, I understand sticking up for your players...but his own team has been involved in elbows, karate kicks, scratches, and other questionable plays...what a load of horse . I hope we meet the spurs in the playoffs.

"we" ?? Oh so which of the Lakers are you??



Oh, you're NOT a Laker? Just a fan?? I thought "fan" came from "fanatic", maybe in your case it comes from "fantasy".

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Greg Anthony just said on NBA Coast to Coast that he knows for a fact that someone from the Spurs did contact the league personally on this. They just didn't say it publicly. Then Tim Leigler pointed out that last year, Spurs did the same thing with the Ron Artest foul to Ginobili. Artest wasn't kicked out of the game for that play or anything but afterwards Spurs front office made a big beef out of it and called the league to get Artest suspended for a game. So it has happened for the Spurs.

I don't believe a thing Greg Anthony ever says about the Spurs. He's always disliked them.

I saw the show and I don't think he actually said he "knows for a fact".

My opinion is that he is bull ting. He heard someone say that they heard the Spurs called the league office. He doesn't really know, he's just saying that.

My opinion is that the truth is that there were some phone calls. We do know for a fact that the league office called Ginobili. I think this was probably rumor-milled into "The Spurs called the league to complain."

[Extra Stout]

The root cause of all this ing is that Kobe missed his one trip to Madison Square Garden this season, and the New York CEO's with courtside seats and luxury boxes are pissed about it.

Do you think Stern and Stu Jackson are going to stand up to the bankrollers and say, "The integrity of the game is more important than your tickets on one night," or shrug their shoulders and say, "What can we do? Those hayseeds in San Antonio forced our hand."

Uh-huh.

[alamo50]

Get Don "Screw You" Harris finaly off that show for crying out loud!!!

[Ronaldo McDonald]

are you saying that anybody who moves their foot that somebody else lands on should get a penalty?

Taking into account that most players in mid-air are 100% concentrated on the jump shot and not on how to land safely, they are completely vulnerable. I think that in this situation the defensive player should always take the initiative to make sure that no one gets injured, because he clearly has more control over his body, and thus the outcome of a play.

Bruce should know this...and it pisses me off when counters it with saying it's not his fault. But he probably doesn't see itany other way because 95% of the time he shoots the ball no one is in front of, or beneath him.

I think his intent to injury a player in a situation like this can be substantially supported given that he is the player with most control of the outcome.

[Fabbs]

I just find it the most ing hilarious thing in the NBA that Lakers fans are calling out Stern (especially since it wasnt even him who gave out the suspension) saying Spurs are untouchable and he hates the Lakers.... The same man who said if it was up to him he would have a lakers vs lakers finals game....

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