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POP will have him as towel boy ...
And that was with no hot water in his apartment and salmonella poisoning.
POP will have him as towel boy ...
And no electricity and no salary.
I canīt belive you Dare to compare Scola with Bonner.And this PF is Matt Bonner.
i thought you were smarter.
I like Bonner donīt get me wrong,but to campare Scola with Bonner is like compare a Nice Little Buick Skylark with a Maceratti.
RIF.
I've never compared Scola with Bonner.
I've been wondering if the continued evolution of the NBA rules to favor offense would improve Scola's chances for success here or not. I honestly haven't seen enough of him to get a feel for his game.
I agree with timvp on the biggest plus - dude plays with heart and brings it against the US when they play. You can't teach that.
The comment about how could Scola be worse than Elson, Oberto, Horry, etc. got me curious about if the team's current lack of depth has reflected negatively on golden boy Presti. I'm of the opinion that it's still too early to tell if Elson/Butler worked out or not, but surely he's sweating a little right now.
Yeah, how dare you.
Scola doesn't have that kind of range.
Itīs just pointless in this thread.
They actually play together moving bonner to the 3 spot.
But It has nothing to do what Bonner is capable to do or not with what we are talking about.
Sometimes you guys need to relize that not all the good things(or people)are or live in America.
Moving Bonner to the 3 spot would be pointless.That's the funniest thing I've read today. Well, second funniest after the Bonner at the three spot thing.Sometimes you guys need to relize that not all the good things(or people)are or live in America.
BTW, about the fact that having great stats in europe doesn't translate for sure in being good nba stats : a player in Spain averages 16.4 pts (.55 FG%), 10.5rbds, 1.8 blocks in 33 mpg....
... His name is Curtis Borchardt
said the same thing about Oberto didn't we?That said, the biggest plus for Scola in my book is that he's always played well against the US NT. In the game this summer, he was the best player on the court in the first quarter.
why some guys keep ignoring, that, unlike some euro stars who failed in the NBA, Scola isn't soft, neither slow, weak or with a severe lack of athleticism?
Scola has a high basketball IQ, solid fundamentals, pretty mid-range jumper, and state-of-the-art low post moves, with the difference that he is QUITE FASTER AND MORE ATHLETIC than other euro players that somehow got minutes in the NBA, like Oberto o Garbajosa.
If they got minutes in NBA, why are you so sure that Scola would do worse than them, given that he's proven over an over better than them, and in NBA characteristics (strenght, speed, athleticism) is better than those players?
My only problem with him, is he doesn't rebound for .
His speed, strength and athleticism would be pretty average in the NBA.
way more other rookies even rookies that get selected first in the draft get paid less then that
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not sure how much Elson and Butler where a result of Presti. The Spurs offered contracts (alledgedly) to several before arriving at Elson, Butler.
I think they roled the dice- saying Nazr and Rasho where so-so and would cost a lot to keep. The hope was the cap flexibility (expiring short contracts )would allow potential moves if needed but so far zip.
I think they have also miscalculated how much Horry had in the tank.
I haven't completely written off Elson- Butler I'm close too.
I'd like to see Elson get extended minutes despite his defecits just to see if his D improves with familiarity. Oberto is what he is- a hard working guy with limited physical attributes.
I am less concerned about stats than what I can see a player do. Stats aren't meaningess in the NBA where they're more relatable to the NBA game (like Elson having 33 of 55 starts last season without a block), but even then they don't tell the whole story.
Oberto had okay stats in Europe but in the games I saw before he was a Spur I noticed he might end up with the worst vertical in the league and that he wouldn't be a shotblocking threat, in spite of his getting a gift block on Duncan in 04 because Duncan was falling and shooting so Oberto didn't have to leave the ground. I saw that he was slow.
It wasn't rocket science to apply these to the NBA game, and seeing that he wouldn't be a shotblocker, would have trouble finishing strong, and would have at best average speed, at worst have poor speed.
That's why I didn't see the need for him. Getting a back-up center with those qualities didn't make sense to me, all the more glaring when he is forced to be the starter.
Scola I view also through this prism.
I don't expect Scola to be a 16-20 point average scorer. I would expect him to be a hustler who scores around the block like Malik Rose did (which occasionally was quite effectively, other times not) and to be able to stick a modest jumper. To be someone the Spurs can go to in the post to at least threaten with when Duncan is out of the game to add some variety to their offense without TD, like they did with a prime Rose.
To be a hustler who can be effective in a delayed fast break and even a fast break. To be a guy who can actually finish strong with a dunk. Maybe not in Dwight Howard's face, but a dunk in a game. To bring a lot of emotion off the bench. To bring passion, energy.
To give up some rebounds, but not be a total disaster rebounding either. To have trouble in one-on-one post defense situations but to play well with his hands and staying active. To make selfish turnovers.
He has blocked the shots of Jermaine O'Neal and Elton Brand. He's not a pure shotblocker by any means, but he'll do more to get after it than Oberto.
So if all Scola would ever be is a prime Corliss Williamson or a prime Malik Rose (whose best year was 10 points a game), then to me that's easily worth 3-3.5 million a year. The Spurs could use a prime Williamson or Rose right now.
Too bad the Spurs will never sign him.
Scola ain't . If he wanted to play here, he would've take the prove yourself contract and bring his ass over here.
They didn't offer him a 'prove yourself' contract.
yes they did. he's the one that set his market value. uh o.
It was never offered. The Spurs didn't want him here. They were looking to trade his rights instead.
they were shopping his rights after they found out what he wanted
I see. Segu was doing the infantile "he should have played for the vet minimum" song and dance. Tiresome.
all rookies do...
then they get their big payday.............
tiresome you do notget that
I hope the reason they didn't sign Scola wasn't that 08 myth of a plan.
The 08 plan is presuming the Spurs don't sign anyone to a deal longer than 1 year with the MLE in summer 07, which likely means another wasted year of championship opportunity.
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