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Wow...I've seen some really nasty things upclose. But I actually verped in my mouth the second I saw that. Am I the only one that hates watching injury clips BECAUSE I've had an injury? This sucks...
Anyone have a working video of this? Everything on youtube has been ripped off by the nba.
Wow...I've seen some really nasty things upclose. But I actually verped in my mouth the second I saw that. Am I the only one that hates watching injury clips BECAUSE I've had an injury? This sucks...
cmon, seriously?
No, you're an idiot who obviously doesn't watch Shaun Livingston play at all or even with an objective outlook. Nice job ing up another thread with your "moderating."
Watch it in slow motion - he's trying to look cool (as he usually does) and s his leg up by landing at a wrong angle. I'm sure you'll say Tony Allen was "just finishing a play" that had been whistled dead at the 3-point line.
Leave Mr. Kori alone.
It's hard when he's actually never picked up a basketball beforeLeave Mr. Kori alone.
It was directed at Timvp, not Kori. And their is no way that that was showboating. Even if it was, no one would ever expect their knee to react like that. I have never seen anything like that. I blew my knee out between my junior and senior year during football workouts, and it was just a freak thing, just planted wrong. I usually like Mexicos posts but to think that he was showboating is pretty far fetched
That's pretty weak.
I didn't see anything Livingston did wrong and even if he was acting a little extra flashy, so what. He didn't do anything crazy that anyone would expect such a horrendous injury.
As for Tony Allen, he did the same crap that players do all the time after the whistle. After a lot of whistles, players will take a jumpshot or go in for a layup or whatever. It doesn't mean they deserve to get hurt because they are "showboating" in your book.
And please get rid of the frickin at ude toward "moderating".
This is the first time I've had an at ude to moderating. I just think timvp is quite short-sighted at times even if he is an implicit leader on this board. I've usually been very deferential to the moderators, but there's a point where you call me out without even even looking at it from my perpsective; he's done this a lot of times and quite frankly, I was getting a little sick of the at ude. I'm pretty sure he responded to my comments in the Tony Allen thread with a little disdain that I felt was unwarranted.
Also, just because Tony Allen did "what a lot of NBA players do" doesn't mean they should do that... and that was my point - two freak injuries from poor decisions might make a couple of guys think twice before they do it the next time.
Watch a slow motion replay of Livingston's layup and you'll see him try to put a little extra unnecessary flash a split-second before his leg plants awkwardly. I'm not making this up - I want players to stop doing this to themselves. I'm not saying I "expect" that injury as you state, but I'm merely pointing out two examples of young guys who tried to put a little "extra flash" and it really cost them.
Everyone when they're young thinks they're invincible which is why car insurance drops as people get older and/or get married. Why is ok to call Jay Williams an idiot just because his showboating occurred off the court on a motorcycle but not guys who simply "do what lots of guys already do on the court"? I don't think they "deserve" it because I want these guys to succeed, but I'm going to speak out about it because it pisses me off a lot.
Just because lots of NFL players probably "make it rain" at strip clubs, does that mean it's ok for Pacman Jones to do it? I'm not saying the NBA should start calling techs for trying to dunk a ball in an obvious dead-ball situation, but the players need to think about their own safety. There was a point in hockey where wearing a helmet made you a "wuss" because "nobody was doing it." I'm pretty sure everyone can agree now that league-mandated helmets in the NHL aren't idiotic.
(Oh, and timvp, I used to run for a layup or shoot a jumper all the time when I was in high school after my coach or an official blew the whistle; my coach made me run at least 10 suicides every time I did it. Let me tell you, I stopped that really quickly. Also, throughout college, I officiated high school and jr. high games in the state of Texas and one of the big enforcements was that we give a delay of game warning whenever a kid would shoot a ball or the like. The reason was two-fold - #1, it slowed the game down a lot (esp. when you have a 7th grade A and then B game right after it); obviously that's why it's called a "delay of game" in the rule book and #2, a lot of these old officials didn't want to be chasing the ball down from some kid's missed shot when they're already killing themselves running up and down the court. At the high school level, they're really trying to crack down on some of these tendencies and nip them in the bud very quickly because these kids are emulating their NBA idols - kind of like I was when I would take 3 pointers in dead ball situations. It's a combination of helping provide them with a disciplined environment when they don't always have it in the home, and therefore, hoping sports will make a positive impact in the maturity, growth and future lives of the 99% of kids who won't make it to the NBA.)
Just want to say I'm sorry for pulling out the "moderating" card on timvp, but I don't like being talked down to, no matter who it is.
Because when you get hurt on the court, you are getting hurt doing your job, where players like Williams and Kellen Winslow Jr, and even Radmonovic got hurt doing things off the court, being completely unresponsible
See, but D-Wade got hurt trying to play defense... these guys got hurt by trying to put on a "show." Find me in their contracts where it states to do that.
We both know that it doesnt saying anything like that in contracts, but we also know that if you dont put on a show the fans will not have the same amount of fun, wont spend as much money on jerseys and things of that sort. The more entertaining you are during a game, the more fans you and your team gets. I see your point that the after the whistle plays need to stop, but you cant blame a guy for trying to get a rise out of the crowd
I know - I'm not blaming them... I'm just saying that these injuries might serve as a small warning... like I said you always think it's not going to happen to you... until it does.
I also admitted to pull the same stuff when I was in high school, so I can understand the mentality... but anyone who denies that's what players are doing is what grinds my gears - at least you and I can agree that they're putting on the show but when they tear multiple ligaments, then the show doesn't go on anymore for them.
^^Yea, and I agree with you that they wont be doing things again that might put them in danger. Like you said, when your young you feel indestuctible, and after that 1st major injury it changes the way you play completely. After my knee I was never the same player
Moderating? How the is calling you stupid moderating? That's more like anti-moderating.
You're either blind, stupid or could never jump if you think Livingston was showboating. He got off balance, mistimed his jump, missed the layup and landed wrong.
You think he purposely tried to land with one leg way out in front of the other? If so, you are just plain stupid.
You have a horrible take, get called out and hide behind the moderator card?
Laughable.
Short-sided. You're the genius who thinks a guy was showboating on a missed layup by putting one leg way out in front of the other on the landing.
I don't even know who the you are. But if you have repeatedly stupid takes, chances are I called you out repeated times.
Again, it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. He got off balance, missed the layup and then landed wrong. What the kind of flash is it to land with one foot way out in front of you?
Now I understand where you are coming from. Those b1tch junior high refs who'd get mad if you touched the rim because that was "showboating".
Now I get why your takes on this issue is so bad.
Okay, I'll apologize for pulling out the "b1tch junior high ref" card.
You haven't watched Livingston enough then, I guess - my immediate reaction was that he was doing his typical breakaway layup spread eagle formation and it backfired.
that was different D-Wade beat us in the Finals and then rubbed it in even more by calling out Dirk after Dirk basically called him a good player. MavFans get angry, they want revenge, then he gets injured. put 2 and 2 together.
imagine this, the SpursFans are still bitter about last year and then Dirk calls Duncan out and says that he doesnt have what it takes and he was the reason they lost. then Dirk gets a season ending injury the next week. this place would be in a jubilant uproar
What a comeback for this guy. The journey was difficult and arduous but it was well worth it. 8 years ago, his career almost ended with a nasty leg injury. Tonight, he can call himself a NBA champion.
LOL
Fkn Lefty been posting here for over 8 years
Of every player on the Warriors roster, I'm happiest for Shaun Livingston.
Great story.
didnt watch gsw games, but how was he?
doing whatever stay in the league, pass first pg are a rarity these days, too bad a pos on the spurs never had that in him
TDMVPDPOY....he had 10 big points tonight. He was a contributor.
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