MVP Debate Rages On

[Infamous]

Yeah well...Kobe doesn't have a winning record...Pretty sure the Lakers could accomplish that without him.

Where did I say anything about Kobe? I didn't mention Kobe for a reason, because there's no way he's going to get the MVP because the Lakers are barely even going to make the playoffs. , there's a chance they won't make it. And yea..the Lakers are a better team without Kobe..

[whottt]

Where did I say anything about Kobe? I didn't mention Kobe for a reason, because there's no way he's going to get the MVP because the Lakers are barely even going to make the playoffs. , there's a chance they won't make it. And yea..the Lakers are a better team without Kobe..

Well then you seem to be under the misconception that Dirk plays with more All Stars than Nash and Duncan...

Because Dirk is clearly the choice of out he, Nash and Duncan...which leaves only LeBron...and there's not a LakerFan alive that wants to see LeBron get an MVP before Kobe...

So you tell me, who is the MVP?

[whottt]

And I didn't say the Lakers were better without Kobe...only that they aren't very good, even with him....so how valuable can he be, to this team?

[Infamous]

Kobe is a good player, but I don't see him making his teammates better. People keep blaming his teammates, but I don't see Kobe (or KG) making teammates better.

When Lakers had Shaq, Shaq made a lot of scrubs look good (Fischer should give half his ginormous contract to Shaq as a thank you).

Well when the Lakers were pretty healthy last season, they had a 3-1 lead against the Suns. Had Odom not missed the crucial rebound in Game 6, which lead to Tim Thomas forcing OT and winning game 6, then Game 7. Kobe WAS making his team better in that series. Just that theres so many injuries and the triangle offense is nowhere to be found, Kobe just has to carry the scoring load.

Also, when the Lakers were pretty healthy, they beat the Spurs twice this season.

[RonMexico]

Where are those Lakers fans that ripped on me and the Suns? Lakeshow and some other got... oh well, good to see the Suns only dropped one game this season to those tools and I really hope Phil Jackson's HOF acceptance is puncuated with his team failing to make the Playoffs.

[LakeShow]

How can you be MVP of the League when some question if you're the Mvp of your own team?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...espnmag/marion

Marion just wants to be noticed. His invisibility is never more evident than in the Suns' 129-127 double-OT epic with the Mavericks on March 14. With eight ticks in regulation, Steve Nash launches a potential game-tying three from the top of the key that caroms long and appears headed into the hands of Dallas' Greg Buckner. In an instant, the man they call The Matrix materializes to snag the ball and kick it back to the two-time MVP, who promptly drills a three from the elbow. The announcers roar that Nash has just gotten a leg up on Dirk Nowitzki in this season's MVP race. Not a mention is made of Marion's game-saving work.

Moments like that have Marion wondering, Where is the love? The résumé certainly demands it: 18.6 ppg and four All-Star Games in eight seasons. And this season, Marion is the only guy in the top 20 in rebounds (10.0), field goal percentage (52.5), steals (2.0), blocks (1.6), double-doubles (35) and minutes (37.9). "Steve is the MVP of the league," says Marion, "but I've had people tell me I am the MVP of the team." Warriors coach Don Nelson might be one of them. Nellie says Marion is "as important as anyone they've got."



Quote from that same article, Marion takes a table in the middle of the restaurant, near a wall-mounted TV that is tuned to an ESPNEWS feature on Kobe's recent scoring tear. Marion would pay to see Kobe, but not many others. "I don't watch a lot of basketball," he says. "I find it boring. You gotta understand, I play for the Suns. Everything else doesn't match up."

[Cry Havoc]

"I find it boring. You gotta understand, I play for the Suns. Everything else doesn't match up." [/I]

Yeah, when you play to the middle part of May, you probably are pretty "bored" of the sport by then.

[Nashfan]

Yeah, when you play to the middle part of May, you probably are pretty "bored" of the sport by then.

Much better than what your team did last year, right??